On 22-Oct-99, Paul Cundle wrote:

>> Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
>> The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider

> How come you don't say you run/own Wirenet any more?

He's parading as a satisfied customer to make more people join :)

> Paul C, experiencing the joys of double entry

!!!??? 'scuse me!?

Mash - not doing the above (not right now anyway)
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                               Matthew O'Neill

"I just wanted to say... You're a total smeghead!"  - Rimmer's father

On 23-Oct-99, amipal@yahoo.com wrote:

> You've probably been asked this a million times (or there abouts), but
> here can I use YAM to post (and download) messages to afb?

Well (as a guess) you must have an email address right?

1)goto the web page and set it to the opposite of read on the web (can't
think right now)
2) make a folder in YAM
3) goto the config and set a filter to move all mail with "[afb]" in the
subject to the new folder. done

Mash - using YAM
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

My computer's getting jealous.... of the time I spend with my wife.

On 23-Oct-99, Paul Cundle wrote:

> I'm incredibly paranoid that when I connect using the 0800 number for
> Wirenet, it's really using the 0845 number so it's not really free. Is
> there any way (using AmTerm, maybe) of checking the last number I
> dialled?

Well if you dial the 0800 number, then you wont be charged...I don't see
what your problem is. If you don't know what number you're dialling,

1) You must have a naff dialler
2) just listen to the tone 0800 should be high, very high, high, high

Mash - off to kill some predatos in america......
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                               Matthew O'Neill

"I plan to work for Digital," said Tom, giving me the finger.

On 21-Oct-99, Alex Furmanski wrote:

>> ...........on my 030! lol

> Dontcha just love that bit where you're plonked in a room with a shambler
> and an ogre, you kill them then three fiends show up.  Great fun!

That bit is pretty bitching yeah, but the low gravity level is the best one
ever :)

Mash - quaked
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Huh huh...uh...huh huh...Minmei Sucks! -Beavis and Butthead

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Phil Sell <pg.sell@ukonline.co.uk>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Saturday, 23-Oct-99, 20:33:36
 About:  [afb] Dead floppy disc drives 


Hello Phil,

> I have just installed a Power Computing 4 way IDE buffered interface
> in my towered A1200 and on putting everything back together it all
> works, except the floppy drives, both DF0 & DF1.
> 
> This makes it a little difficult to install the EIDE'99 software.
> 
> When I turn on the DF0 drive access light comes on and stays on but
> when a disc is inserted, the drive doesn't spin.
> 
> The DF1 drive is connected to the external drive port and appears to
> be completely dead, no light and no spin!
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on why the drives don't work.

Is the internal drive cable around the right way?

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

-- 

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mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au

(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia)
   
Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical
support, and more.  For further information visit the web site.

***  DO  NOT  SEND  JUNK  MAIL  *** 

Andrew Crowe said, 

>   These so called infinite email addresses are a bit of a fiddle eh? There
>   basically the same address...

No, they're different addresses but a single mailbox. It's no different
to the system used by most companies, where all mail for
anyone@company.com goes to the same machine which then sorts it out to
the individual users.

It's more efficient for dialup use, since you only have one login and
authentication for each mail collection. If you had completely separate
mailboxes, you'd have to collect each one separately, which means
longer online.

However, separate mailboxes are better when you really need them to be
separate, with each user having their own password and login.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Why marry a virgin?  If she wasn't good enough for the rest of them, then
she isn't good enough for you.

Alex said, 

> I wonder anyone installed the OS V3.5 on their Amiga and is it compatible
> with other Programs??

It's totally incompatible with all older Amiga programs. That's why it
was in beta testing for four months, to make sure that nothing slipped
through the net, that no older programs sneaked through and were able
to run.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
"Bother," said Pooh, as someone else stole his taglines.









































































</sarcasm>

Hi,
     Is Michael of the number cruncher program on the last AFCD on this list
?
If so Please E-Mail me in private, as the address in the Program Don't work.
:-(

     Bomber Harris

andy kinsella <andy.k-@ukonline.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33755
>
> Turn all the full white pens in your palette down a bit; 250,250,250
> or something.
>

They're currently at 238, 238, 238. Though whether this is my doing or
some combination of NewIcons, Magic Workbench, Magic Copper or some
other wierd patch that modifies my palette on the fly that I do not
even know about!
 
Next time it plays up, I'll reboot without a startup sequence and see
if it still does it without all this extra software running.

Today it is behaving perfectly. 

Many thanks,

Martin

Hi Matthew

> >> ...........on my 030! lol
>
> > Dontcha just love that bit where you're plonked in a room with a
shambler
> > and an ogre, you kill them then three fiends show up.  Great fun!
>
> That bit is pretty bitching yeah, but the low gravity level is the best
one
> ever :)

I love it when you're playing on the net an there's a newbie there.  When
you get shoved to that level they always say "WTF?" :-)

Tatty byes
--
Alex Furmanski - a.furmanski@virgin.net
WWW: http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk  *NEW URL*
ICQ - 51206302

This week's lie: The Falkland Islands are the worlds largest manufacturer of
prefabricated churches.

Tis quite easy.  All you need is a large(ish) bladed screw drive and
slow leave them out from each end....

failing that TNT works quite well ;)

> Hi
> 
> Only with getting the damn 3.0 Roms out. Almost considered tying them to the
> bumper of my car and reversing the beggars out!
> 
> Later
> 
> Gavin
> 

-- 
-dRX^mB

X Zone BBS +44 (0)1635 820590 (6PM-1AM UK Time)

Http://www.miggybyte.freeserve.co.uk/totaled  - Amiga Games Cheat Site
Http://www.miggybyte.freeserve.co.uk/thexzone - Amiga Support Site

Hi Ben Ihave tried to do your poll as requested but both V2  and
Ibrowse will not let me in to the egroups as they say I havent cookies
available.SORRY to let you down.
-- 
                               Best Regards,
                               Robert.
                               Keyingham.
                               East Yorkshire.
                               A1200.Tower.                        






                               
                          

Hello All,

On 22-Oct-99, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> On 22-Oct-99, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:
> 
>> btw, i dont think any of the Phase5 cards get detected in the bootmenu
>> expansion card diagnotic 
> 
> My 030IV does

My PPC does! If you've installed the latest flashrom, all PPC cards should
show up (I think, maybe, to the best of my knowledge, so i've been told :)
 
Bye,

-- 
Danny Shepherd.

UIN: 30044173
WEB: http://www.gespatcho.u-net.com
SMS: j215596@sms-genie.co.uk

Member of the AmigaRC5 team and cracking blocks at 831K keys/sec

Success is like a fart - only your own smells nice.
-- James P. Hogan

Once upon a time in the land of AF-ml,
Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> On 20-Oct-99, A Timiney wrote:

>>> I vote that Ben puts some Anim porn on the front of the Christmas
>>> issue. There's a load of it on CUCD21 I hear :)

>> No! This just makes everone think that Manga is a cheap excuse for
>> porno.

> Can we have some porn anyway though? ;)

Can we have some manga instead?

There's some really cuuuuuuuuutttttee pics of AhMyGoddess...

Nyk
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Things are more like they are today than they ever have been before.

Once upon a time in the land of AF-ml,
Sealey, M. wrote:

>> hi,
>> 
>> > Ummm, it's easy to explain the tilde, innit?  You say 
>> > "tilde."  It's what unix used to denote direct paths user
>> > ID's root directories or some such. I can't remember
>> > offhand but I think that under unix if you type
>> 
>> errr, *we* al know what it means...he was talking about non computer
>> users.... i've said tilde to several people who looked at me blankly
>> (and did a wonderful Goldfish impression for a second or two)

>:o

> I just say 'tilde' and when they look at me in a blank manner,
> I say 'wavy line' and when they STILL look at me blankly I
> reach over their shoulder and do SHIFT-# and say 'TILDE' in
> a slightly irate way.

> They usually get the point :)

'swung dash' maybe? ^_^

Nyk
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Sects, sects, sects, is that all you monks think about?

"ian urie" <ianuri-@jwu.u-net.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33707
> On 22-Oct-99 14:19:40, Gavin Williams said about [afb] OS3.5 has
arrived !!!:
> 
> > My OS3.5 plopped thru the letterbox today ,hurrah. Well... here
goes. Has
> > anyone else received/installed it yet?
> 
> Yep, mine arrived from Power and I've just installed it!!!
> Now to find all the things that don't work :(
> Well,wbextender doesn't alter the about window now....
> and why did it not give me the option to instal amigamail in my
> work:internet drawer???

I got mine today also, and I've got to say, it's the biggest piece of
shit I've
ever installed on my hard disk....and this hard disk has been in a
PC!!!!

No OPUS Magellan 2 support (not with anyone I've spoken too also!!!)
Icons not compatible with NewIcons,
GUI is absolutely disgraceful,
AmigaMail doesn't work,
AWeb is shite,
ClassACT is ugly.....
Haage-Partner are greedy, conning gits!!

Anyone who hasn't bought it, take some advice and spend your money
on Magellan 2 and TurboPrint 7......I've just wasted my money and I 
don't want people to waste theirs!!!

Boycott OS3.5, it's a cludge that could be made up with a few downloads
from Aminet and a buy from some of the Amiga developers that care about
their
customers....urgghh....I'm so ANRGY!!!!

Gentlmen and ladies.
Has any one had the same experiance as me?
I needed a new mouse so looking through my copy of AF I chose the one
by Power computing,together with the punchinello mouse
adaptor(the mouse wont' work with out it)The package came with a disk
for the wheel support.All well and good.I pluged every thing in and
all went well-the rodent worked.
  I then loaded up the wheel support program,I thought well it's free
why not . BUT when I came to use my internet program I could not log
on.The message "could not open serial device(serial device)!" kept
popping up.It wasn't until I removed the wheel support prog' that I
got back my internet.
Now did I do some thing wrong? All I did was remove one mouse and
pluged another one in, and loaded in a prog'.The instructions that
came with the package is not very clear--at least not to my mind but
there again I'm no boffin.
Any one got any thoughts.
Many thanks
Primo.
primo@busancano.prestel.co.uk        24/10/1999

Matthew O'Neill reckons he knows a bit about [afb] Re: My new Email, but there's more to it than that.

> > Paul C, experiencing the joys of double entry
 
> !!!??? 'scuse me!?

Now how did I know it would be /you/ who picked up on that? :)
Don't worry, it's a perfectly normal thing to be doing in my job.

> Mash

Paul C, the mystery man
-- 
... Bill Gates named his company after his penis.

On Sun Oct 24, Matthew O'Neill was heard muttering:

> Well if you dial the 0800 number, then you wont be charged...I don't see
> what your problem is.

The problem is I'm not totally convinced it is dialling the 0800
number.

> If you don't know what number you're dialling, 
> 1) You must have a naff dialler

Nope.

> 2) just listen to the tone 0800 should be high, very high, high, high

That's not a bad idea actually, I'll give it a go in a minute.

> Mash

Paul C, with 7 fingers and 12 toes
-- 
... Q. How many drummers does it take to change a light bulb?
    A. None.  They have machines that do that now.

On Sun Oct 24, Neil Bothwick was heard muttering:

> > I'm incredibly paranoid that when I connect using the 0800 number for
> > Wirenet, it's really using the 0845 number so it's not really free.

> It's not using the 0845 line, it's using the 01925491112 line and the
> 0800 number. It's not free, but you don't pay for it.
> Or are you worried that Miami may have failed to connect on 0800 and
> fallen back to 0845? 

Neither, really. I'm using Genesis and I'm 99% sure that it's using
the 0800 number, but I'm just an extremely paranoid person when
there's a risk I'm wasting huge volumes of money unneccessarily.

> Any Wirenet subscriber using Miami can mail me for a copy, I'll clean it
> up later, add Genesis support, and put it on the web site.

If Genesis support isn't there by 20:00 tonight, I'll be after you, Mr
Bothwick... ;)

> Neil

Paul C, with a steel thingamijig
-- 
... Top Oxymorons Number 42: Airline Food

Hi,

I have created a few too many accounts in my MicroDot II ;) and now wish to get
rid of them. I click Remove and the program puts a D next to them, wich I assume
means Disabled.

When I exit and restart the program they are still there! Where is the file
stored which tells MD2 abot these accounts? I've used SNoopDos but cannot find
the location of any files that might do this.

I have tried Microdot.prefs but it is encrypted as far as i can tell and won't
allow me to edit it :(

Cya!
-- 
 --           *Gareth Griffiths*:  gaz@jokerd.co.uk          --
--- Founder of *Joker Developments*: http://www.jokerd.co.uk ---
 --   *ICQ*:  52909563   *IRC*:  GazChap/#AmIRC (Undernet)     --

Drink wet cement, and get completely stoned.

On 23-Oct-99, Phil Sell wrote:

> Can anyone shed any light on why the drives don't work.

1) cable in upside-down
2) pc style twisted cable?

Mash - working
-- 
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                               Matthew O'Neill

.remember, capitals at the beggining, full stops at the enD

On 23-Oct-99, Patrice Champarou wrote:

>> /me wonders why the @ sign is called a tilde.... ;)

>  I don't know what you're all talking about, but in Spanish
> a tilde is THIS : ~

I know!...someone said you got it by pressig shift and # though
shift+# = @

Mash - @home
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Love your kids so they can love!

On 23-Oct-99, Paul Cundle wrote:

> He was being oh-so-witty and humourous: On Amiga keyboards (the A1200
> at least) shift-# is the @ symbol.  Matt (I think) was talking about
> PC keyboards.

:D

and this umm, other keyboard here, dunno if its 1,2 or 3 thousand though
(model: KKQ-E94YC) has the same keys, except the blanks are covered by
extended return and left shift keys :) Oh and just to note, about 100 or so
of the keyboards at college have the tildey thingy on the top left too

Mash - still @ home
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                               Matthew O'Neill

"How would you like to be knee-deep in floor?" -- Hoolihan to Radar

On 24-Oct-99, Patrice Champarou wrote:

>  I was 99.9% sure they did, but I tried to /loqd the British key,qp
> qnd<<</ No, I can't believe it! Don't tell me you use QWERTY! Is it
> normal, or did the American force you?

Oh, don't tell me you frogs have that naff AZERTY (?) crap over there?

Mash - QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM
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                               Matthew O'Neill

"I'm dead...and I'm still intimidated by you." - Ro

On 23-Oct-99, Paul Cundle wrote:

> Probably because it's incredibly easy to hack the egroups poll page. 
> Like I know in your "Is Rich evil?" poll, which one you voted for,
> even though it's a closed poll. Hahahahahahahahaha.

I saw that.....c'mon how then?.....I need to know......

Mash - 
-- 
                    HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash/
                               Matthew O'Neill

My mind goofs off in mysterious ways...

On 23-Oct-99, Patrice Champarou wrote:

>  Anyway, I'm sure he'll be glad to join me as soon as I come to Britain.
> I trust you'll tell me where is your favorite pub, then.

Ummm, any one which sells blackthorn :) <FARMER> cider!!!! </FARMER>

Mash - I've got a brand new combine harvester
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Laser printers DO IT without making an impression.

Hi Bippy
Somewhere around 19-Oct-99, you spewed some some gumph about [afb] Yam and
Multiple addresses!?!?

> but when I add a new user and create the above I get an error saying BAD
> PASS?? Do I need to register these addresses with a password from
> freeserve or what??

Why not just get everything from @stingent.freeserve.co.uk ? just remove the
bit bfore the @ and it will get everything from there. Then you can just
filter them later

Mash - doing it right now
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                               Matthew O'Neill

Nice computers don't crash.

Hi

I do hereby sentance the following to 5 years in prison:
  xatiminey@knowles-hill.devon.sch.uk
        funky_gibbon@talk21.com
        michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk
        richard.drummond@futurenet.co.uk
        kcci1@central.sussex.ac.uk
        jrpotter@btinternet.com
        andyroo@globalnet.co.uk

All have been found guilty of being Richard Drummond.

I also sentance,
  a.comb@design-works.co.uk
        oliver.roberts@iname.com
        glenny@ukonline.co.uk

for supporting the evil acts of the above

Many thanks go to the following for going undercover to evil clubs in order
to gather the nessasary evidence,
   spi@sliders.demon.co.uk
        dave@satanicdreams.com
        mateussd@cpovo.net
        a.furmanski@virgin.net
        scarrie@computing.dundee.ac.uk

Mash - Not evil
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                               Matthew O'Neill

What was on their minds when they abbreviated "Kentucky?"

Hello Matt,
 
> > Probably because it's incredibly easy to hack the egroups poll page. 
> > Like I know in your "Is Rich evil?" poll, which one you voted for,
> > even though it's a closed poll. Hahahahahahahahaha.
> 
> I saw that.....c'mon how then?.....I need to know......
> 

It's not exactly difficult you know. Work it out for yourself, you've
got to learn to stand on your own two feet in this world, can't always
rely on other people.

Byee,
Andy.

On 23-Oct-99, Paul Cundle wrote:

>>   I don't know what you're all talking about, but in Spanish
>> a tilde is THIS : ~

>He was being oh-so-witty and humourous: On Amiga keyboards (the A1200
>at least) shift-# is the @ symbol.  Matt (I think) was talking about
>PC keyboards.

On UK A1200 the # and @ are on the same key but that's not universal. I think
that's where the confusion has crept in. Tilde is ~.

On 24-Oct-99, Patrice Champarou wrote:
>Hello Alan

>On 23-Oct-99, you wrote:

>> You replied to a person with a french e-mail address, do A1200s in fra=
nce
>> have the same keyboard layout?.

>  I was 99.9% sure they did, but I tried to /loqd the British key,qp qnd=
<<</
>No, I can't believe it! Don't tell me you use QWERTY! Is it normal, or d=
id
>the American force you?

:-) It's normal. The UK keyboard is not the same as the US keyboard thoug=
h.
Things like =A3, #, @, ", ' and ` are in different places for example. Th=
e
French keyboard is quite different again. The A500 manual used has them a=
ll
listed but it isn't in the A1200 manual, or at least I couldn't see it th=
ere.

Unless times have changed since the A500 the keyboards will also vary for=

Denmark, Germany, Spain,  Iceland, Italy, Switzerland, Sweden/Finland, No=
rway.

Hello amipal@yahoo.com

>> Get a life Ken.  I think that you should attatch your cable to your
>> television set pick it up. turn it halfway and shove it up your arse
>> by the way amiga's died a very long time ago this is a pointless
>> website and i dont even know why i am looking at it
>> 
> 
> Excuse me? Where the hell did that come from?

I know and it was to me as well, you do get them some times but got to laugh.

                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken 




  

"primo busancano" <prim-@busancano.prestel.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33789
> Gentlmen and ladies.
> Has any one had the same experiance as me?
> I needed a new mouse so looking through my copy of AF I chose the one
> by Power computing,together with the punchinello mouse
> adaptor(the mouse wont' work with out it)The package came with a disk
> for the wheel support.All well and good.I pluged every thing in and
> all went well-the rodent worked.
>   I then loaded up the wheel support program,I thought well it's free
> why not . BUT when I came to use my internet program I could not log
> on.The message "could not open serial device(serial device)!" kept
> popping up.It wasn't until I removed the wheel support prog' that I
> got back my internet.
> Now did I do some thing wrong? All I did was remove one mouse and
> pluged another one in, and loaded in a prog'.The instructions that
> came with the package is not very clear--at least not to my mind but
> there again I'm no boffin.
> Any one got any thoughts.
> Many thanks
> Primo.
> primo@busancano.prestel.co.uk        24/10/1999

The Mouse software mustn't be allowing you to use the Serial port in
shared mode,
but then again, why would it use that anyway, if you modem is plugged
into the
serial port? You can either have on or the other, not both, so no need
to lock
the serial port if the mouse isn't using it....strange

Matthew O'Neill reckons he knows a bit about [afb] Re: polls: duff poll?, but there's more to it than that.

> > Probably because it's incredibly easy to hack the egroups poll page. 

> I saw that.....c'mon how then?.....I need to know......

Tough. If everyone knew how to hack polls then they'd all degenerate
into worthless poo. I only added an option to the Evil Rich one
because it's hardly a serious poll - or is it...?

> Mash

Paul C, on and off
-- 
... I'm trying to get some air circulating, said Tom fanatically.

Hi Neil

> > > This stinks Ben
> > > Amiga sent them all out at once on Tuesday so there would be no stupid
> > > claims like this from individual dealers.
> >
> > But have you got yours yet Alan? I along with many others on the list
have
> > pre-ordered from your firm and are dying to know when we'll get our
grubby
> > hands on our copies of 3.5.
>
> And I will probably be ordering from Eyetech too... Like to keep it local,
you
> see :)
>
> Neil - in North Yorkshire...

You can`t get much more local than me tho.  I may even save myself the
postage - I live 20 mins away from Eyetech.

Jon

Jon
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates!
>
>

Hi,

I bought a tower 2nd hand last week it has a blizzard 1260 + scsi plus loads
extra like 2 scsi drives and a ide drive also scsi cd rom 32 speed pluse a
ONBoard (anyone have any info on this) with zorro ports (loads)

See You
-- 
                 Cheers all the best

                       Ken 




  

Hi Alex,

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> I wonder anyone installed the OS V3.5 on their Amiga and is it
> compatible with other Programs??

Every program I tried works fine, including hacks like MCP.

Regards, Andrew Bell.
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> Ummm, any one which sells blackthorn :) <FARMER> cider!!!! </FARMER>

Cider? Yuck! I'd much rather have a bottle 'o broon! (otherwise known as =
Nukey :)



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necronlor-@totalise.co.uk wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33502
> Help!!
> 
> Every-one is telling me to download different things for linux. Can
> someone tell me what to download and from where. I am totaly new to
> linux so i guess there will be a lot to download so could you also
> suggest some good ftp sites as well as web sites. I need a version
that
> will work with a 68EC020 1200 with 8mb of ram but no fpu or mmu.


forget it. It needs FPU, MMU and 400 Mb Hd-space.
maarten

"neil dearing" <nei-@wibble.karoo.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33503
>   Im new to linux and would appreciate it if someone could tell me
> where to get all the files. Ive searched http://www.linux-m68k.org to
> no avail, please help


Redhat 5.1. If and when I find someone to make me a copy, I'll send it
to you.

CU 
maarten

Paul Cundle said, 

> On Sun Oct 24, Neil Bothwick was heard muttering:

>> Or are you worried that Miami may have failed to connect on 0800 and
>> fallen back to 0845? 

> Neither, really. I'm using Genesis

Same difference, both will work through a list of numbers until they get
a connect.

> and I'm 99% sure that it's using
> the 0800 number, but I'm just an extremely paranoid person when
> there's a risk I'm wasting huge volumes of money unneccessarily.

Copy your standard interface, change the phone number in the copy and
use it at weekends. If there's no 0845 number in the interface config,
there's no danger of Genesis dialling it.

>> Any Wirenet subscriber using Miami can mail me for a copy, I'll clean it
>> up later, add Genesis support, and put it on the web site.

> If Genesis support isn't there by 20:00 tonight, I'll be after you, Mr
> Bothwick... ;)

"Later" as in "in time for next weekend".


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Can someone with more knowhow than me check out this site:-


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----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Poll: is Richard Drummond evil?


> I do hereby sentance the following to 5 years in prison:
>         jrpotter@btinternet.com
> All have been found guilty of being Richard Drummond.

I confess! I confess!

I don't know how it got so out of control. One minute you're just playing
around, you know, with your mates. Then you just lose it.
"I'm going to be Ben Vost," says one,
"I'm going to be Nick Veitch" says another
And before you know it, you're Richard Drummond and you just don't care.
It's just a buzz, innit? You don't care what the consequences might be, you
just do it.

And then it becomes, like, an addiction and you find yourself growing your
hair and stuff and signing your cheques 'Richard Drummond'. And that's when
the downers start.

But I'm trying to go straight, I really am. I'd been cold turkey for three
weeks now until that Goddamned poll come along.

I hate you O'Neill! All that effort and achievement wasted - you've sent me
back to hell!!
[Breaks into a fit of sobs...]

James (not Richard Drummond)

On 24 Oct 99 15:00:28 -0100, Robert Smith (robert@rsmith=2Ekaroo=2Eco=2Euk)=
 wrote:
> Hi Ben Ihave tried to do your poll as requested but both V2  and
> Ibrowse will not let me in to the egroups as they say I havent cookies
> available=2ESORRY to let you down=2E

Update to V=B3!

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Hello Peter

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

>> :-) It's normal. The UK keyboard is not the same as the US keyboard
> though.

  Yes, I should have remembered! I had noticed it on my first Amiga, which
had an American keyboard, but honestly I thought that GB had adopted Azerty,
and that the only differences were on the numbers line.

  I had edited a sort of "translation table" for the A1000, especially to
find all these non-alphabetical characters more easily. I'll see if I can
adapt it to the A1200 keymaps ( and if it's worth sending )  

  Patrice

Hello Peter

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> On UK A1200 the # and @ are on the same key but that's not universal. I
> think that's where the confusion has crept in. Tilde is ~.

  Glad to learn I don't /always/ talk nonsense :-)

  Patrice

On 24-Oct-99, hilarious Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> Oh, don't tell me you frogs have that naff AZERTY (?) crap over there?

*  8=3D(...  Just asking!*            ( Who said "asking for it"? ) =



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Hello Robert

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Hi Ben Ihave tried to do your poll as requested but both V2  and
> Ibrowse will not let me in to the egroups as they say I havent cookies
> available.SORRY to let you down.

  Strange, IBrowse didn't ask me for anything. I even managed to change my
vote quite easily, after reading the first comments made by a couple of angry
users who actually intalled OS3.5  :-?  :-(  :-O
 
  Maybe I did that a bit hastily, but I'm sorry to confirm that im(very)ho
this poll has been started prematurely.

  Patrice - pessimistic, but practical ;-)

Hello Peter

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Cider? Yuck! I'd much rather have a bottle 'o broon! (otherwise known as
> Nukey :)

  O.K., I promised Matthew I would buy him a drink, but I can't afford a
round for the whole list. I haven't come to Britain for 10 years anyway,
but I'll do my best. I used to like Double Diamond, but maybe the quality
has changed, so a pint of real ale will do. :-)

  Cheers,

  Patrice 

Hi,

Does anyone know if it is possible to pass parameters to CGI scripts when
you're using them with SSI? I've got

<!--#exec virtual="cgi-bin/script.cgi" -->

but if I put

<!--#exec virtual="cgi-bin/script.cgi?param=xxx" -->

it doesn't work. Is there any way of adding paramters like this?

Thanks
Neil

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Hi All

I asked a week or so ago why should Simon the Sorcerer on the CD32 not play
the sound correctly on one of two simlar machines.

The Answer is as some one suggested ( thanks )  it needs 3.1  there is most
obviously  something missing in 3.0.  Same as phogenics  it needs a patch
if you are running a 3.0  ROM

cheers Burt.

Hi All 

I have been using St Fax  with a small amount of sucses.

Q. Has any one sent a pic. And Has come out oka at the other end. If so what
did you have to do to your pic ( pic in this instance referse line drawings
on a A4 sheet  that had been shaded or cross hatched )  ive found it
imposible to send a photo in any format.

Q. What size do I have to scan an A4 sheet  to make it fit the fax im
sending to.
I  have expanded the pixels in the X direction to 1700 and am told part of
it has been choped.
On tests 1500 seems to be the  X direction size.


Cheers Burt.

Hi All

I have been using turbocalc oka for a few years now.
What I have is colum A contains names and I lock or freeze it.
My left colum stays static and the cols B onwards scroll into it leaveing
col A Static.
Problem I have increased the the numer of names in colum A I now have the
equivalent of 3 screens down.   And the freeze col A ,  I just can not get
to freeze.
it seems that as soon as you exeed the length  (the Y direction)  of any
screen turbo calc cocks up final data does it oka.
Any one else come accross this or is it me.

cheers   Burt. 

Hello,

Has anybody got a spare keyboard ribbon clip for a A1200 motherboard
that they can sell me?

Kind regards
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/*Thank You slash@thesnakepit.demon.co.uk For Your Email Dated 24-Oct-99*=
/
 =

> I got mine today also, and I've got to say, it's the biggest piece of
> shit I've
> ever installed on my hard disk....and this hard disk has been in a
> PC!!!!

Well I agree that having had windows on it, then the hd did have some
serious shite installed. As for OS3.5 being shit....I have to disagree,
although I have yet to receive my CD-ROM and install it.

> No OPUS Magellan 2 support (not with anyone I've spoken too also!!!)
> Icons not compatible with NewIcons,
> GUI is absolutely disgraceful,
> AmigaMail doesn't work,
> AWeb is shite,
> ClassACT is ugly.....
> Haage-Partner are greedy, conning gits!!

Well I've been told that OS3.5 and DOpus MagII will work. Ben, Rich, anyo=
ne, isn't =

this true? Also, the fact that he mentions the icon incompatability probl=
em. Is
this also true? I thought as I have, as so many, have NewIcons installed,=
 it
would be fine when I install this new(er) OS.
Regarding the mail, TCP/IP and AWeb s/w...it doesn't bother me too much
if they either don't work correctly, or if they refuse to work. This may
seem like a stupid attitude, but I allready have Miami 3.0d, V3pre4 (V2.9=
5
reg'd) and YAM. =

I would like to know why you think the GUI is crap tho... =


> Anyone who hasn't bought it, take some advice and spend your money
> on Magellan 2 and TurboPrint 7......I've just wasted my money and I =

> don't want people to waste theirs!!!

Well I've got it on order with Eyetech. It should be here by the end of t=
he
week. I'm certainly looking forward to it.

> Boycott OS3.5, it's a cludge that could be made up with a few downloads=

> from Aminet and a buy from some of the Amiga developers that care about=

> their
> customers....urgghh....I'm so ANRGY!!!!

I certainly disagree with your above statement regarding boycotting H+P. =
If
OS3.5 is a success, then we may well see OS4.0 in a yr or so. That can't =
be
bad news can it!?!

What do the rest of you think? I'd really like to hear from those on the =
list
who have installed OS3.5 and what you really think of it etc.
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> I would like to know why you think the GUI is crap tho...

I'm buying OS3.5, full stop. However, I have to say that looking at the way
OS3.5 eveolved, I have always looked at the GUI and cringed. It is THE ugliest
GUI I've ever seen! I certainly hope there's a nice straightforward way of
changing elemnts of it.

Neil

Hello slash@thesnakepit.demon.co.uk

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> "primo busancano" <prim-@busancano.prestel.co.uk> wrote: 
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33789

>> by Power computing,together with the punchinello mouse
>> adaptor(the mouse wont' work with out it)The package came with a disk
>> for the wheel support.All well and good.I pluged every thing in and
>> all went well-the rodent worked.
>>   I then loaded up the wheel support program,I thought well it's free
>> why not . BUT when I came to use my internet program I could not log
>> on.The message "could not open serial device(serial device)!" kept
>> popping up.
> 
> The Mouse software mustn't be allowing you to use the Serial port in
> shared mode,
> but then again, why would it use that anyway, if you modem is plugged
> into the
> serial port? You can either have on or the other, not both, so no need
> to lock
> the serial port if the mouse isn't using it....strange

The punchinello plugs into the mouse port on the A1200, so you should
not be using a driver that accesses the serial port, did you set the
software up correctly

Regards
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On 24 Oct 1999 9:44:25 +0100, Neil Bothwick said:
> chris.cregan said, 
> 
> > PS A DACS unit works at 144K transfer rate, its a shame you can't just
> > plug a
> > modem straight into it!
> 
> The same bandwidth as ISDN, 2 x 64K + 16K. And it gives the same number
> of lines, do they use the same technology? There was also a story
> floating around that the analogue lines on Home Highway are DACS'd. It
> would explain why I only get a 31200 connect when I try to use an
> analogue modem with it.

I'm scratching my head trying to remember the exact numbers, (if you're
/really/ interested, I can dig the manuals out...) but I'm sure that the
sampling rate is no where near 144k, but more like 28k per channel for DACS
(Digital Audio Carrier System), hence the lower transfer speeds. It's good
enough for telephone speech, which only uses the range 300Hz to 3400Hz
anyway, but crap for fast data. There is also no 16k control channel with
DACS, as it uses the data channels for control/timing as well.

The audio channels of Home Highway actually use the digital ISDN channels
for transmission to the local exchange. So, the data is converted from
analogue (output from modem) then back to digital (to be carried over the
line), back to analogue at the exchange and from there dealt with in the
same way as any other analogue call which, if the call is to another
exchange, it can involve more D>A & A>D again!

I think something gets lost in the translation :-P

I know that there were problems with earlier versions of the Network
Terminating Equipment (the grey box that gets installed) that caused
problems with fax and modems when using the analogue ports, but the later
revisions seem better.

Chris.

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Hi,

Are there any programs that let you record sounds DIRECTLY from the sound
channels? I have a few Mp3's which i'd like to record certain parts from. On a
PeeCee, i'd just load up WinAMP and Sound Recorder, play the MP3 and hit Record
in sound recroder. Anything similar to this for the amiga, or would it even be
possible to make one?

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On 24-Oct-99, Albert Hunt wrote:
>Hi All

>I asked a week or so ago why should Simon the Sorcerer on the CD32 not play
>the sound correctly on one of two simlar machines.

>The Answer is as some one suggested ( thanks )  it needs 3.1  there is most
>obviously  something missing in 3.0.  Same as phogenics  it needs a patch
>if you are running a 3.0  ROM

If the problem is that the sound is too quick it could be that the two similar
machines have differing speed CD ROM drives. The sound is fine on a 2x CD ROM
but you might need to visitthe pub a few times on a 32x CD ROM.

On 24-Oct-99 11:02:56, slash said about [afb] Re: OS3.5 has arrived !!!:
> "ian urie" <ianuri-@jwu.u-net.com> wrote: 
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33707
>> On 22-Oct-99 14:19:40, Gavin Williams said about [afb] OS3.5 has
> arrived !!!:
>> 
>> > My OS3.5 plopped thru the letterbox today ,hurrah. Well... here
> goes. Has
>> > anyone else received/installed it yet?
>> 
>> Yep, mine arrived from Power and I've just installed it!!!
>> Now to find all the things that don't work :(
>> Well,wbextender doesn't alter the about window now....
>> and why did it not give me the option to instal amigamail in my
>> work:internet drawer???

> I got mine today also, and I've got to say, it's the biggest piece of
> shit I've
> ever installed on my hard disk....and this hard disk has been in a
> PC!!!!

> No OPUS Magellan 2 support (not with anyone I've spoken too also!!!)
> Icons not compatible with NewIcons,

Try the new icon editor which will make newicons compatible!!!

> GUI is absolutely disgraceful,

Looks ok to me :)

> AmigaMail doesn't work,

Oh Yes it does!!

> AWeb is shite,

Gotta agree...and I use IBrowse 2.1 :)

> ClassACT is ugly.....

MUI looks better....

> Haage-Partner are greedy, conning gits!!

Gotta disagree here, IMHO they've done a great job in a short time,
I look forward to updates.

> Anyone who hasn't bought it, take some advice and spend your money
> on Magellan 2 and TurboPrint 7......I've just wasted my money and I 
> don't want people to waste theirs!!!

You can't please everyone....be thankful you got an update that allows
new drives etc!!!

> Boycott OS3.5, it's a cludge that could be made up with a few downloads
> from Aminet and a buy from some of the Amiga developers that care about
> their
> customers....urgghh....I'm so ANRGY!!!!

Don't know why!!!
-- 
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Anarchy: Rights without Responsibilities.

> > Haage-Partner are greedy, conning gits!!
>
> Gotta disagree here, IMHO they've done a great job in a short time,
> I look forward to updates.

If the story on Czech Amiga News is true, then there may not be much chance of
updates. Allegedly, some IDIOTS pirated, cracked (whatever) and uploaded OS3.5
fo BBS's and FTP sites.

Neil

Hello ,

On 24-Okt-99, you wrote:

> I got mine today also, and I've got to say, it's the biggest piece of
> shit I've
> ever installed on my hard disk....and this hard disk has been in a
> PC!!!!
> 
> No OPUS Magellan 2 support (not with anyone I've spoken too also!!!)

What do you mean? DOpus Mag still works like a charm on my os3.5 system.
As for the icons being only four colours, that is a problem of DOpus
(that is being fixed), but you could still use Newicons.

> Icons not compatible with NewIcons,

Of course. You can use NewIcons if you want. Noone forces you to use the
new icon system, although I have been told it is faster. You can even
use Newicons without that patch in your startup-sequence.

> GUI is absolutely disgraceful,

You can make it look like GadTools, at least almost. The only difference
I could spot is that the text inside gadgets seems to be not exactly
centered. Plus you can have Window backgrounds, just like in MUI, to
give your Amiga a more consistent and professional look.

> AmigaMail doesn't work,

It does.

> AWeb is shite,

It's not as good as V, but it is stable as a rock.

> ClassACT is ugly.....

ClassAct? see above.

> Haage-Partner are greedy, conning gits!!

That's why they are working in the Amiga market...

> Anyone who hasn't bought it, take some advice and spend your money
> on Magellan 2 and TurboPrint 7......I've just wasted my money and I 
> don't want people to waste theirs!!!

M2 and T7 do not stop to work, I'm still using them. Plus you get a lot
of bugfixes (just look at the setpatch output), improved RTG support
(really), great new icons, a proper CDFS, a workbench with ARexx port
and a new API (which could be used to program tools that replace hacks
like deficons), etc...

> Boycott OS3.5, it's a cludge that could be made up with a few
> downloads from Aminet and a buy from some of the Amiga developers that
> care about their
> customers....urgghh....I'm so ANRGY!!!!

A propos care for customers, you get free support by email, web and
phone (only Germany though I think).

It's time I get a job in marketing .)

Regards
-- 
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On 24-Oct-99, Patrice Champarou wrote:
>Hello Peter

>On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

>>> :-) It's normal. The UK keyboard is not the same as the US keyboard
>> though.

>  Yes, I should have remembered! I had noticed it on my first Amiga, which
>had an American keyboard, but honestly I thought that GB had adopted Azerty,
>and that the only differences were on the numbers line.

I can only just about type with qwerty! :-)

There are a number of differences between the two keyboards.

I had the same problem with American keymaps being the diffult when I had a
copy of mavis beacon (sp?) teaches typing and theings like ' weren't where I
wanted them to be!

Hello Andrew,

On 22-Okt-99, you wrote:


> I was wondering how big is Amiga in Germany, there seems to be alot of
> Amiga companys over there and of course the europe headquaters is
> there.

I think the Amiga HQ is only in Germany because Escom went bankrupt in
Germany! Petro kept the business going as a liquidator and later
established Amiga International together with GW2k. So I think it's more
a historical reason...

> Someone did say to me that there are more Amiga users than PC users in
> Germany but i never believed him at the time (and still dont), could

No. Maybe at the beginning of the nineties, nearly everyone seemed to
have an A500, but now Amiga's market share is very low. Although in one
PC magazine I regularily read, one of the writers always has an "Amiga
Computer" icon on his Windows desktop... (I think that's Amiga Forever,
isn't it?) Maybe Amiga users are just hiding very well :)

> anyone tell me the real size of the German Amiga Community? Maybe
> compared to the the British Amiga Community?
 
Let's see, UK has two Amiga Mags, Germany also two (Ok, two and a half,
there is a PC magazine with an Amiga supplement for subscribers). I
think the two communities are the same size in percent to the
population. Germany has a bigger population, so that would explain the
number of Amiga companies, but I think the market share is the same in
the UK and in Germany.

Regards
-- 
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Hello Neil,

On 24-Okt-99, you wrote:


>>> Haage-Partner are greedy, conning gits!!
>> 
>> Gotta disagree here, IMHO they've done a great job in a short time,
>> I look forward to updates.
> 
> If the story on Czech Amiga News is true, then there may not be much
> chance of updates. Allegedly, some IDIOTS pirated, cracked (whatever)
> and uploaded OS3.5 fo BBS's and FTP sites.

There have even been cracked and pirated versions of 3.5 beta releases
by Digital Corruption. It was on Amiga-News.de quite some time ago. To
everyone who intends to use a pirated version, you can be sure there are
backdoors in it.

Regards
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Hello Ben

On 22-Oct-99, you wrote:

>BV Hi Phil,

>BV> Hello ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk

>BV> Yes, of course I will


>BV>> <html><table><tr><td><pre>
>BV>> 21.10.99 OS3.5 has now been released, but will you be buying it?
>BV>> (Final version, honest). Please answer by Monday morning when this
>BV>> poll will be closed for inclusion in this issue.

>BV I think you have the wrong end of the stick Phil, you're supposed to go to
>BV the website and register your vote. I trust everyone else has done
>BV already? This will be the next poll in the afb page in AF, so I would
>BV really like to have a decent level of response for once...

Less than 100 so far out of 800+, is that a good response ;-(


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Albert Hunt said, 

> I asked a week or so ago why should Simon the Sorcerer on the CD32 not play
> the sound correctly on one of two simlar machines.

> The Answer is as some one suggested ( thanks )  it needs 3.1  there is most
> obviously  something missing in 3.0.

Probably lowlevel.library


Neil
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Chris Dallimore said, 

> On 24 Oct 1999 9:44:25 +0100, Neil Bothwick said:
>> 
>> > PS A DACS unit works at 144K transfer rate, its a shame you can't just
>> > plug a
>> > modem straight into it!
>> 
>> The same bandwidth as ISDN, 2 x 64K + 16K. And it gives the same number
>> of lines, do they use the same technology?

> The audio channels of Home Highway actually use the digital ISDN channels
> for transmission to the local exchange. So, the data is converted from
> analogue (output from modem) then back to digital (to be carried over the
> line), back to analogue at the exchange and from there dealt with in the
> same way as any other analogue call which, if the call is to another
> exchange, it can involve more D>A & A>D again!

Which would explain the lack of V90 connects, too many A<-->D switches.
I wonder why it always connects at 31200 though, never 33600, not that I
use it that much. Fax works at up to 14400 so something is right.


Neil
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On Sun Oct 24, Neil Bothwick was heard muttering:

> >> Or are you worried that Miami may have failed to connect on 0800 and
> >> fallen back to 0845? 
> 
> > Neither, really. I'm using Genesis
> 
> Same difference, both will work through a list of numbers until they get
> a connect.

I've got different interfaces set up, as below.

> > and I'm 99% sure that it's using the 0800 number,

> Copy your standard interface, change the phone number in the copy and
> use it at weekends. If there's no 0845 number in the interface config,
> there's no danger of Genesis dialling it.

That's what I did. Is there /definitely/ only one place I need to
change the phonenumber?
 
> > If Genesis support isn't there by 20:00 tonight, I'll be after
> > you, Mr Bothwick... ;)

> "Later" as in "in time for next weekend".

I suspected as much, but I'm afraid it's just not good enough. I'm
sending Matt Sealey round your place first thing tomorrow.

> Neil

Paul C, regurgitating
-- 
... "OK Mom, I'm going to hypnotize you now," said Tom transparently.

"oliver roberts" <oliver.robert-@iname.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33714

> Maybe I misunderstood your original question, 

Nope. Just incomplete information from me! Sorry.

> 
> It sounds to me as if you're running DefIcons, which is what is
bringing
> up the Execute command window with iconless files.  Check the
def_#?.info
> files in ENVARC:sys - you will probably find that the default tool for
> def_ascii.info is set to :C/StartIDer.

Spot on! Unfortunately it's not quite fixed it. If I open up an Aminet
folder (from the CD) and double-click on a .readme file the Execute
window comes up with just the filename. If I choose to look at the
folder using Icons the icon used is clearly a text file icon (complete
with reading glasses!) but if I choose the Information details the
system tells me the file is a project.

JJ (UK)

Paul Cundle said, 

> On Sun Oct 24, Neil Bothwick was heard muttering:

>> Copy your standard interface, change the phone number in the copy and
>> use it at weekends. If there's no 0845 number in the interface config,
>> there's no danger of Genesis dialling it.

> That's what I did. Is there /definitely/ only one place I need to
> change the phonenumber?

i think so, but all the config files for Genesis are text files, use
FlashFind to search the contents of AmiTCP:db for 0845.

>> > If Genesis support isn't there by 20:00 tonight, I'll be after
>> > you, Mr Bothwick... ;)

>> "Later" as in "in time for next weekend".

> I suspected as much, but I'm afraid it's just not good enough. I'm
> sending Matt Sealey round your place first thing tomorrow.

Good, he can make the tea :)

But he'd better come alone, I'm allergic to cats... disgusting animals.


Neil
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
If at first you don't succeed, you must be a programmer.

Hi all,

 I'm having a couple of problems:

a) I have some jpeg pictures which I can't view because they are too big
   I've tried to make them smaller by using  gfxcon v1.8c but it
complains
   it cant read. I get similar problems when using a PC. can someone
check 
   these pictures on a gfx card machine for me? theyre at
 
  http://home3.inet.tele.dk/kennethm under pusle jet

   its the archived ones which I'm having troubles with

b) Im having a few troubles with my web site-
 IBrowse1.2 wont scale the gfx, so they don't fit a table and AWeb3.2
keeps
 switching between the frames/ noframes version which is odd as there
is no
 refresh tag in the non version

c) IBrowse also sems to be having difficulty with egroups - it keeps
resending
 a http request whenever I send an email addy to it via a form, so Ive
not been
 able to work out how to change/add my home addy.

could you CC replies to atiminey@curator.connectfree.co.uk please (for
the reasons above)

thank you =)


-curry

The name's Bothwick, Neil Bothwick, licence to email.

> > That's what I did. Is there /definitely/ only one place I need to
> > change the phonenumber?
 
> i think so, but all the config files for Genesis are text files, use
> FlashFind to search the contents of AmiTCP:db for 0845.

Good idea, ta. Although I'll just use "search" in C: so I don't have
to go and find FlashFind (whatever that is). There's another command
no-one seems to use.

> > I suspected as much, but I'm afraid it's just not good enough. I'm
> > sending Matt Sealey round your place first thing tomorrow.
 
> Good, he can make the tea :)
> But he'd better come alone, I'm allergic to cats... disgusting
> animals.

Ooh, you're gonna regret that...

> Neil

Paul C, looking over his shoulder
-- 
[snip cos its rubbish]

> a) I have some jpeg pictures which I can't view because they are too big
>    I've tried to make them smaller by using  gfxcon v1.8c but it
> complains
>    it cant read. I get similar problems when using a PC. 

I may have got you wrong, but if you mean you run out of memory, try
viewing with Visage, using the SCALE parameter. This should scale it
on screen. If you actually need it scaled so you can play around with,
I'm afraid I can't help.

Paul C,
-- 
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    One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies,
    and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
    deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult"
    --C.A.R. Hoare

On 24-Oct-99 23:40:48 BST, jpjeffery wrote:

>> It sounds to me as if you're running DefIcons, which is what is
> bringing
>> up the Execute command window with iconless files.  Check the
> def_#?.info
>> files in ENVARC:sys - you will probably find that the default tool for
>> def_ascii.info is set to :C/StartIDer.

> Spot on! Unfortunately it's not quite fixed it. If I open up an Aminet
> folder (from the CD) and double-click on a .readme file the Execute
> window comes up with just the filename. If I choose to look at the
> folder using Icons the icon used is clearly a text file icon (complete
> with reading glasses!) but if I choose the Information details the
> system tells me the file is a project.

Try checking ENVARC:sys/def_Doc.info

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<tsb>

Hi Mash,

> >  Anyway, I'm sure he'll be glad to join me as soon as I come to Britain.
> > I trust you'll tell me where is your favorite pub, then.
 
> Ummm, any one which sells blackthorn :) <FARMER> cider!!!! </FARMER>
 
You don't want to drink that. You want to drink a *proper* cider.
You want to drink Merrydown. It's certainly done a good job of
removing most of my unwanted braincells ;)  (how does this Amiga
thingy work again ?)

Cheers,

Eddie

Hi Robert,

> Hi Ben Ihave tried to do your poll as requested but both V2  and
> Ibrowse will not let me in to the egroups as they say I havent cookies
> available.SORRY to let you down.

Funnily enough I've had the same problem. Why this should be after the
best part of 6 months without any hassle, I don't know. The polls have
been working fine up until about a week ago. Now I'm being told I
don't have cookies enabled (I bloody *do* cos I've checked, nothing's
been altered on my setup since I joined afb) Egroups have obviously
been mucking around with their sites again (I'm also unable to make
any entries into the database over on afb-movie, which is tantamount
to gagging me !)

For what it's worth Ben, I'm buying OS3.5 this week.

Cheers,

Eddie

Hi Everybody,

>  I then loaded up the wheel support program,I thought well it's free
> why not . BUT when I came to use my internet program I could not log
> on.The message "could not open serial device(serial device)!" kept
> popping up.It wasn't until I removed the wheel support prog' that I
> got back my internet.
> Now did I do some thing wrong? All I did was remove one mouse and
> pluged another one in, and loaded in a prog'.The instructions that
> came with the package is not very clear--at least not to my mind but
> there again I'm no boffin.

   Does the mouse wheel support actually work?

What it's doing is using the serial port, even though the mouse is plugge=
d into the amiga mouse port.

Actually, I've just realised the problem:  =


The mouse wheel software is to let you use serial mice with an amiga seri=
al port, it presumably came with the mouse.

The interface you have, however, lets you use serial mice in the standart=
 mouse port, removing the need for extra drivers.

The problem with that is, that you loose the mouse wheel support.


   Well, there you go. If you really want the mouse wheel support, I gues=
s you have to have the mouse plugged into the serial port, but as you don=
't have an extra serial port for your modem, I guess you're stuck eh?

 =

PS. I only guess this is the case, but I'm pretty sure thats the prob...


See ya :)
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 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players!
  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
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--The Miscellanea Digest

Hi Everybody,

> PeeCee, i'd just load up WinAMP and Sound Recorder, play the MP3 and hi=
t Record
> in sound recroder. Anything similar to this for the amiga, or would it =
even be
> possible to make one?

   Yep, there is a way.  Use an MP3 player that supports AHI. Then you ca=
n set the output as 'Filesave' and it'll automatically save the parts of =
the MP3 you want.  The problem with that is you can't actually hear it wh=
ile it's playing, but if you remember the timings it should work fine.

   A slightly less elegent way would be to simply convert the whole thing=
 into a sample, although that would take a while and use lots of hd space=



See ya :)
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 Homepage updated 5/8/99 --- James Bond on GFX Card & CPU players!
  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
"Bother," said Pooh, for no obvious reason.

Hello Eddie

On 25-Oct-99, you wrote:

>EM Hi Robert,

>EM> Hi Ben Ihave tried to do your poll as requested but both V2  and
>EM> Ibrowse will not let me in to the egroups as they say I havent cookies
>EM> available.SORRY to let you down.

>EM Funnily enough I've had the same problem. Why this should be after the
>EM best part of 6 months without any hassle, I don't know. The polls have
>EM been working fine up until about a week ago. Now I'm being told I
>EM don't have cookies enabled (I bloody *do* cos I've checked, nothing's
>EM been altered on my setup since I joined afb) Egroups have obviously
>EM been mucking around with their sites again (I'm also unable to make
>EM any entries into the database over on afb-movie, which is tantamount
>EM to gagging me !)

FWIW Aweb3.3 had no problems casting my poll, and being able to dipense with
the tool bar gives so much more viewable area, which is great if you don't
have a graphics card.


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==========================================
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==========================================
*Amiga Phoenix For The Future*   

ICQ # 38728970

Of all the people I've met you're certainly one of them.

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Neil Bullock wrote:

> Does anyone know if it is possible to pass parameters to CGI scripts when
> you're using them with SSI? I've got
> 
> <!--#exec virtual="cgi-bin/script.cgi" -->
> 
> but if I put
> 
> <!--#exec virtual="cgi-bin/script.cgi?param=xxx" -->
> 
> it doesn't work. Is there any way of adding paramters like this?
> 

An idea I can't test:

<http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs-1.5/tutorials/includes.html>

... is a web page with an official-looking bit of info on SSI from NCSA.

It says there are two valid exec tags: "cmd" and "cgi".  "virtual", what
you're using, isn't one of them.  Maybe you should change to "cgi"...


*** From the web page I mentioned above ***

o ``exec'' executes a given shell or CGI script.  It must be activated to
be used.  Valid tags are:

    o ``cmd'' will execute the given string using /bin/sh.  All the
      variables defined below are defined, and can be used in the
      command.

    o ``cgi'' will execute the given virtual path to a CGI script and
      include its output.  The server does not perform error checking
      to make sure your script didn't output horrible things like a
      GIF, so be careful.  It will, however, interpret any URL
      Location: header and translate it into an HTML anchor.


-----
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Department of Computer Science and Software Engineering
University of Melbourne, Australia.

Hi Alan,

On 24-Oct-99 you wrote:

> Has anybody got a spare keyboard ribbon clip for a A1200 motherboard
> that they can sell me?

That little, rectangular bit of plastic that you push down to grip the
ribbon?  I (probably) have one whichever bit you mean (especially since
I've got a whole, dead A1200 sitting here (anyone else looking for
spares?)).

Mail me off-list if you want it...

Martin, green.
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Hi Matthew,

On 23-Oct-99 you wrote:

[snip]

> 3) goto the config and set a filter to move all mail with "[afb]" in the
> subject to the new folder. done

It's a better (IMNAAHO) idea to filter on the Reply-To: header - I've
had a few private mails that still had [afb] in the subject which can
cause confusion since they end up in the afb folder.

> Mash - using YAM

Martin, me too! :)
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Hi xatiminey@knowles-hill.devon.sch.uk,

On 25-Oct-99 you wrote:

[snip]

> c) IBrowse also sems to be having difficulty with egroups - it keeps
> resending
> a http request whenever I send an email addy to it via a form, so Ive
> not been
> able to work out how to change/add my home addy.

Which version of IBrowse?  One of the demo versions I've used has similar
problems.  OTOH, when I tried to change my email address through eGroups
site, I couldn't (I don't know if they've fixed that problem yet?) so
I just resubbed under my new address (which is also what eGroups suggested
when I mailed them at the time...).

Martin.
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Hello Eddie Maddock, on 25-Oct-99 05:44:50 you said about:
  [afb] Re: Worship your Quake god 

>Hi Mash,

>> >  Anyway, I'm sure he'll be glad to join me as soon as I come to Britain.
>> > I trust you'll tell me where is your favorite pub, then.
> 
>> Ummm, any one which sells blackthorn :) <FARMER> cider!!!! </FARMER>
> 
>You don't want to drink that. You want to drink a *proper* cider.
>You want to drink Merrydown. It's certainly done a good job of
>removing most of my unwanted braincells ;)  (how does this Amiga
>thingy work again ?)

I used to have some scrumpy cider from Cornwall somewhere that was 9.5%,
boy, knocked yer socks off it did.... :#)


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 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.the-works.org.uk
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Mash is really getting on Marris' tits:

>> Read the mail below - it's the reply Alan sent to my mail saying he asked
>> a rhetorical question (snipped) - so do me a favour and stay off my back,
>> OK?

> And what does that have to do with anything I've said? You're getting more
> Sealeyish everyday

You took the piss saying I was replying to Neil Bothwick when I was actually
replying to Alan Buxey - I've just shown the actual reply an thus proving you
WRONG -- so what, now you're denying you said it in the first place?
Sort it out mate - no one likes a fool (except Martin!!)

RobM

> > I said :- 
> > 
> > > PS A DACS unit works at 144K transfer rate, its a shame you can't
just
> > > plug a
> > > modem straight into it!

Chris Dallimore said 

> I'm scratching my head trying to remember the exact numbers, (if
you're
> /really/ interested, I can dig the manuals out...) but I'm sure that
the
> sampling rate is no where near 144k, but more like 28k per channel
for DACS
> (Digital Audio Carrier System), hence the lower transfer speeds. It's
good
> enough for telephone speech, which only uses the range 300Hz to 3400Hz
> anyway, but crap for fast data. There is also no 16k control channel
with
> DACS, as it uses the data channels for control/timing as well.

I can assure you that both channels are carried via a digital stream at
144 kbits and produce 2 x 64kbit/s channels, I don't know what the extra
16k is for as I can't take too long to look it up as I'm at work at the
moment (and yes I work for BT). V34 modems will be supported around
26-28KBit/sec, this is not the maximum of 33.6KBit/sec but on most
copper
lines the rate will be better than V34 modems over the copper line only.
V90(56KBit/sec) modems are not supported due to the additional analogue
interface into the switch but will fall back into V34 modem speeds. This
information comes from our information service system on our Intranet
site.

Chris Cregan

Hello Alan

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Has anybody got a spare keyboard ribbon clip for a A1200 motherboard
> that they can sell me?

  I must have one - slightly damaged on one side, but efficient enough. So
if you're fed up with trimming matches and really can't find... How much do
you estimate it? :-)
 
  Patrice - "It may come handy someday" my grandfather used to say, while I
             was creeping under the fabulous junk he kept in his shed.

Hello Peter

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> I can only just about type with qwerty! :-)

  Believe it or not, I also have problems with Azerty ( I typed for 10 years
or so on my A1000 American keyboard ). And one of the best features of Qwerty
is that you can type numbers without using shift. You'll never know how lucky
you are, if you use programs like Wordworth which don't recognize the
numeric keypad :-( 

  Patrice

Hello Peter

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> Due to English being a strange but wonderful laanguage it was always bob
> rather than bobs i.e. A ten bob note, "That'll be nine bob" etc.
> Also as you'll probably know two and six is/was a half crown
> A crown being five shillings, so half a crown two shillings and sixpence
> too.

  Thanks for the lesson, you were right to correct what, I admit, was a bit
inaccute, but I was referring to /coins/ rather than to the system itself.

  Since I didn't mean "bob" as the equivalent of 5 new pence :
- Either I was right to make an exception, adding an -s just like I said
"pennies" instead of "pence".
- Or I should not have used "bob" for "shillings" at all.
 
  Something similar applies to my second mistake : I was lucky to find
a few two-and-six bits on which "half crown" was still mentioned,
which /does/ make a difference for collectors!

  Patrice - the bus-conductors' friend for years 

To anyone interested :

  I finally got the answer, thanks to St=E9phane from AmigaImpact.

If you want to change styles in your signature you must type a star * =

( or is it called an asterisk? ) to get bold, and a slash / to get
italics, before and after the word(s) you want to alter.

  Easy, isn't it? But how could one guess?

  Patrice

Hi all,

The subject says it all really. Does CacheCDFS (which comes with OS3.5)
have support for Joliet CD filesystem. Unfortunately I think I have to
support it. If not then I think AllegroCDFS supports it, but does this
work with scsi cd drives - the power computing advert suggests it does,
but your review implies it doesn't.

	Thomas Cobb

> Hi all,
> 
> The subject says it all really. Does CacheCDFS (which comes 
> with OS3.5) have support for Joliet CD filesystem.

Yes.

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Hi Andrew <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>,

On the 25-Oct-99 you muttered something about [afb] Re: Sound sampling ;) if I remember correctly, so I thought I would reply! Nice of me wasn't it?

>   Yep, there is a way. Use an MP3 player that supports AHI. Then you can set
> the output as 'Filesave' and it'll automatically save the parts of the MP3 you
> want. The problem with that is you can't actually hear it while it's playing,
> but if you remember the timings it should work fine.
> 
>   A slightly less elegent way would be to simply convert the whole thing into
> a sample, although that would take a while and use lots of hd space

Cool! Thanks ;)

Cya d00d
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Hi!  My name is Norman and I'm a tagline addict.

Hi Andrew,

> I was wondering how big is Amiga in Germany, there seems to be alot of
> Amiga companys over there and of course the europe headquaters is there.

> Someone did say to me that there are more Amiga users than PC users in
> Germany but i never believed him at the time (and still dont), could
> anyone tell me the real size of the German Amiga Community? Maybe compared
> to the the British Amiga Community?

The German market is certainly bigger than the UK market. It's probably the
largest going, which is why the Cologne show is always worth going to
(hint).

All the best,
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             PGP key available upon request
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Try: http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/

Hi jpjeffery@csi.com,

> Whenever I click on a text file I get the 'Execute a file' window pop
> up and filled in as follows:
> ":C/StartIDer <filename>".

> Now I know that StartIDer is the file they used to use in CU Amiga
> Coverdisk CDs but no matter how often I run AF preferences I can't get
> rid of 'StartIDer' as the default.

> Can anyone help me?

And you've checked the ASCII text entry in AFCDPrefs and set it to Multiview
(or whatever you like) and hit Save? Give us some more details.


All the best,
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Ambrose Bierce

Hi jpjeffery@csi.com,

> AF recently had an article on networking your Amiga but no mention was
> made of using (either version of) Samba.

> Might I suggest an article along those lines please?

> Thank you most awfully...

It's something we're doing in the next coupld of issues.

All the best,
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Paul Cundle said, 

> The name's Bothwick, Neil Bothwick, licence to email.

>> i think so, but all the config files for Genesis are text files, use
>> FlashFind to search the contents of AmiTCP:db for 0845.

> Good idea, ta. Although I'll just use "search" in C: so I don't have
> to go and find FlashFind (whatever that is). There's another command
> no-one seems to use.

Becasue Search is ridiculously slow. Ut takes five minutes to do what
FlashFind does in ten seconds. The syntax is compatible, so you can
rename FlashFind as Search.

>> But he'd better come alone, I'm allergic to cats... disgusting
>> animals.

> Ooh, you're gonna regret that...

I only regret encountering the things :(


Neil
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Andrew Crowe said, 

>> PeeCee, i'd just load up WinAMP and Sound Recorder, play the MP3 and hit
>> Record in sound recroder. Anything similar to this for the amiga, or would
>> it even be possible to make one?

>   Yep, there is a way.  Use an MP3 player that supports AHI. Then you can set
>   the output as 'Filesave' and it'll automatically save the parts of the MP3
>   you want.

Or use mpega if it's only MP3s you want to convert. It has an output to
file option.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
The value of a program is proportional to the weight of its output.

> > > i think so, but all the config files for Genesis are text 
> > > files, use FlashFind to search the contents of AmiTCP:db for 0845.
> 
> > Good idea, ta. Although I'll just use "search" in C: so I don't have
> > to go and find FlashFind (whatever that is). There's another command
> > no-one seems to use.

FlashFind is on pretty much every CUCD ever made, if that helps.. you
could also just search Aminet for it (ooh, look, it took me 10 seconds
to do that, and less to download! :)

> > > But he'd better come alone, I'm allergic to cats... disgusting
> > > animals.
> 
> > Ooh, you're gonna regret that...

Damn right he is!

> I only regret encountering the things :(

Damn thee, foul hater of all things pewly and cute!

Meow!

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University of Leicester

 
> Hi jpjeffery@csi.com,
> 
> > AF recently had an article on networking your Amiga but no 
> > mention was made of using (either version of) Samba.

Didn't the article buy the Pantheon Systems guy use Samba?

> > Might I suggest an article along those lines please?
> 
> > Thank you most awfully...
> 
> It's something we're doing in the next coupld of issues.

Oooh, can you put the latest release of Samba on the CD then.
2.5Mb is a bit much to download to my poor ickle miggy wiff
it's slow connection..

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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

hi,

> Is there any way i can add a mmu cheaply to my a1200 without buying an
> accelerator.

sure....just buy the 020 MMU copro and make the electronics yourself.

only accel cards have MMU options

alan

On 22 Oct 1999, Andy Mills wrote:

> That sounds a /bit/ like it's reporting the serial-modem speed and not
> the connection speed to Free4All. If it is, add W2 to your modem init
> string and that will make it report the connection to f4a.

i use the same init string for all ISP's -> and the serial-modem is at
56k
 
> Also, I'm sure Andy Sillwood would say this, but make sure you're using
> the 0845 3003150 phone number. Personally, I've found that I can connect
> to Free4All at the same speed as any of the other ISPs I use...

i'll double check everything :-)


alan

Hi Godzilla,

> You don't seem to get it. The REASON Eyetech charges the 3% is BECAUSE the
> bank puts a 3% charge on Credit card purchases. At least in "Keyed"
> transactions (The type where they don't swiped your card through the
> machine, they just punch in the numbers) I used to sell computers retail
> and accept credit cards and that's how it works. Some stores eat the loss
> of entering credit card sales.. but it's still the banks charge...

The banks still charge Power in exactly the same way, but Power don't pass
that charge on.

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hi,

> > to show that the Amiga
> > market isn't just full of loud-mouthed skinflints. 
>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Why waste three words when one will do........students! ;-)

hmmm...i've bought more stuff for my Amiga as a student than i ever did
before

alan

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, chris wrote:

> but...........you do charge 3% extra on credit card orders.......which you
> conveniently forgot to add as well.

use Switch

alan

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Eng. Ricardo Fitzgerald wrote:

> in, it gets stucked !  It's very weird, I've tried everything I added the
> DNS servers primary and secondary addresses to Miami/setup/databases but
> without luck.

get the latest Miami - and use MiamiInit to set up your connection again

alan

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 funky_gibbon@talk21.com wrote:

> OK, things are getting murky now. Four weeks ago I knew what I was
> doing, saving for a top-grade PPC and BVision. Now phase5 say they're
> building G4 cards and new graphics cards to go with them. So what do I
> do? Wait till they arrive or just go for it? Added to that, according

thats an easy one - you were saving for PPC with Gfx card - just buy the
newer rendition..the G4+CvisionNG combo. 

> to afb people seem to be having increasing problems with BVision, is

increasing problems? no..some people just havent done their prelim
research on heat/voltage and software configing before plugging the card
in :-)

> Does anyone out there actually have a BVision+PPC set-up that works
> fine, bar the inevitable teething problems? I ask merely because I'm

yes..mine works beautifully...Warp3D worked straight out of the archive

> Also, has anyone heard from The World Foundry lately? E2260 is one game
> that would make me forget my worries and splash out. The Amiga needs a
> killer game to make the rest of the market sit up and take notice. The
> PC market exploded on the back of fantastic(at the time) games like
> Doom and Mechwarrior.

they're still working on all their titles

alan

Hi Neil,

>> PS A DACS unit works at 144K transfer rate, its a shame you can't just
>> plug a
>> modem straight into it!

> The same bandwidth as ISDN, 2 x 64K + 16K. And it gives the same number
> of lines, do they use the same technology? There was also a story
> floating around that the analogue lines on Home Highway are DACS'd. It
> would explain why I only get a 31200 connect when I try to use an
> analogue modem with it.

When they used a DACS for my second line, I was (eventually) told that it
would only work at a maximum of 14.4k. Suitable for a fax, but not a modem.
Needless to say it was immediately ripped out, I got some more compensation
(I already had a year's free calls because of the amount of time it took
them to fit the line) and I was getting 52k connects.

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Excuse for the day: working as designed

Hi Neil,

>> I wonder anyone installed the OS V3.5 on their Amiga and is it compatible
>> with other Programs??

> It's totally incompatible with all older Amiga programs. That's why it
> was in beta testing for four months, to make sure that nothing slipped
> through the net, that no older programs sneaked through and were able
> to run.

ROTFLMAO...

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&&
If you're not part of the solution,
you're part of the precipitate.

> Hi Neil,
> 
> > > I wonder anyone installed the OS V3.5 on their Amiga and 
> > > is it compatible with other Programs??
> 
> > It's totally incompatible with all older Amiga programs. 
> > That's why it was in beta testing for four months, to make
> > sure that nothing slipped through the net, that no older
> > programs sneaked through and were able to run.
> 
> ROTFLMAO...

However funny it was, the sad thing is that there are people
on this list who will be reading that now, BELEIVING it and
propagating it to all the news sites and newsgroups and
mailing lists as gospel.

*sigh*

I really do hate this 'community' :/

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Hi Primo,

> Has any one had the same experiance as me?
> I needed a new mouse so looking through my copy of AF I chose the one
> by Power computing,together with the punchinello mouse
> adaptor(the mouse wont' work with out it)The package came with a disk
> for the wheel support.All well and good.I pluged every thing in and
> all went well-the rodent worked.
>  I then loaded up the wheel support program,I thought well it's free
> why not . BUT when I came to use my internet program I could not log
> on.The message "could not open serial device(serial device)!" kept
> popping up.It wasn't until I removed the wheel support prog' that I
> got back my internet.
> Now did I do some thing wrong? All I did was remove one mouse and
> pluged another one in, and loaded in a prog'.The instructions that
> came with the package is not very clear--at least not to my mind but
> there again I'm no boffin.

Presumably you didn't plug in the serial cable too? If you did it's no
wonder you couldn't dial out. If you didn't then you'll get no mousewheel
(yet, until Punchinello 2 comes out).

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"I forgot what to buy", Tom said listlessly.

Hello Rich (sorry, James)

On 24-Oct-99, you wrote:

> I confess! I confess!
> 
> I don't know how it got so out of control. One minute you're just playing
> around, you know, with your mates. Then you just lose it. "I'm going to be
> Ben Vost," says one, "I'm going to be Nick Veitch" says another And before
> you know it, you're Richard Drummond and you just don't care. It's just a
> buzz, innit? You don't care what the consequences might be, you just do
> it.
> 
> And then it becomes, like, an addiction and you find yourself growing your
> hair and stuff and signing your cheques 'Richard Drummond'. And that's
> when the downers start.

LOL!

You think you've got problems. I have been trying to crack my Richard
Drummond habit for 25 years . . .

( Be strong. You're not Richard Drummpond. You're name is Throat-wobbler
Mangrove . . . )

Cheers,
Rich

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On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Patrice Champarou wrote:

> To anyone interested :
>=20
>   I finally got the answer, thanks to St=E9phane from AmigaImpact.
>=20
> If you want to change styles in your signature you must type a star *=20
> ( or is it called an asterisk? ) to get bold, and a slash / to get
> italics, before and after the word(s) you want to alter.
>=20
>   Easy, isn't it? But how could one guess?

easy - use a another mailer to read the same text - or save the message
and look at the ascii

alan

Hi Patrice,

>  Yes, I should have remembered! I had noticed it on my first Amiga, which
> had an American keyboard, but honestly I thought that GB had adopted
> Azerty, and that the only differences were on the numbers line.

AZERTY is a nightmare to get used to if you are used to QWERTY. I apologise
to anyone who was talking to me via IRC at the WoA this year. I was on a
machine with an AZERTY keyboard and it took me an age to type my responses!

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Hi Simon,

> Well I've been told that OS3.5 and DOpus MagII will work. Ben, Rich,
> anyone, isn't this true? Also, the fact that he mentions the icon
> incompatability problem. Is this also true? I thought as I have, as so
> many, have NewIcons installed, it would be fine when I install this

It works fine with Opus, however, there's currently no support in Opus for
the new icon format. Workbench does display NewIcons however.

> This may seem like a stupid attitude, but I allready have Miami 3.0d,

Upgrade to the latest v of Miami! 3.0d is very old now.

>> Boycott OS3.5, it's a cludge that could be made up with a few downloads
>> from Aminet and a buy from some of the Amiga developers that care about
>> their
>> customers....urgghh....I'm so ANRGY!!!!

> I certainly disagree with your above statement regarding boycotting H+P.
> If OS3.5 is a success, then we may well see OS4.0 in a yr or so. That
> can't be bad news can it!?!

I quite agree. Boycotting H&P, or not purchasing OS3.5 is a sure way of
killing the Amiga.

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> You think you've got problems. I have been trying to crack my Richard
> Drummond habit for 25 years . . .

> ( Be strong. You're not Richard Drummpond. You're name is Throat-wobbler
> Mangrove . . . )

OK - who subscribed me to the Monty Python list??  :)

RobM

> I quite agree. Boycotting H&P, or not purchasing OS3.5 is a sure way of
> killing the Amiga.

As true as that is, I won't be buying it *just* so they'll make V4.
Are we getting a full review next ish Ben?

RobM

Hi Neil,

>>> Haage-Partner are greedy, conning gits!!
>> 
>> Gotta disagree here, IMHO they've done a great job in a short time,
>> I look forward to updates.

> If the story on Czech Amiga News is true, then there may not be much
> chance of updates. Allegedly, some IDIOTS pirated, cracked (whatever) and
> uploaded OS3.5 fo BBS's and FTP sites.

The same is always true. However, I really hope it doesn't damage sales of
the OS as much as it has done Opus, TurboPrint, STFax, Voyager and so on
and so forth. Actually on the beta list someone was saying about there
being a hack to setpatch in the pirated version, so I dread to think what
that will do...

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Why not write us a reader review of a piece of
your hardware or software?

Hi foilks,

I see 3.5 has arrived - unlike my copy.  I havnt got it yet :(

Anyway - onto the subject in hand.

I recently changed my email loggin address and ever since have not been
able to access egroups from home with Voyager.  At uni and with the
demo Ibrowse I can use it but with Voyager I cant.  The problem is that
Voyager wont let me logout of "biffordyoungest@hotmail.com" in order to
re-log-in as "sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com".

  This is really annoying.  No matter how many times i click the logout
button it still takes me back to "goto BiffordYoungest@hotmail.com or
logout".  Even after a refresh its still there.

Has anyone any ideas on how to get past this?  

Thanx in advance,

Bifford the Youngest.

> The same is always true. However, I really hope it doesn't damage
sales of
> the OS as much as it has done Opus, TurboPrint, STFax, Voyager and so
on
> and so forth. Actually on the beta list someone was saying about there
> being a hack to setpatch in the pirated version, so I dread to think
what
> that will do...
> 
What a shame if it knackers the computer. I heard a rumour of
pre-orders of 30,000 I think that's right. Is that true? I haven't
ordered it yet because I'm lazy, but what PPC stuff does it have?

Hi MARRISR@uk.ibm.com,

>> I quite agree. Boycotting H&P, or not purchasing OS3.5 is a sure way of
>> killing the Amiga.

> As true as that is, I won't be buying it *just* so they'll make V4.
> Are we getting a full review next ish Ben?

Yes. Four pages coming up. It won't be a review (it seems a little silly to
try and grade the thing, after all), but it will have a proper conclusion,
etc.

All the best,
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All generalizations are false, including this one.

The G4s are supposed to be out in the next few weeks, but when will the
graphics card be available? I would like like to get a G4, but I really
don't want to go back to AGA.

Hi riksweeney@hotmail.com,

> What a shame if it knackers the computer. I heard a rumour of
> pre-orders of 30,000 I think that's right. Is that true? I haven't
> ordered it yet because I'm lazy, but what PPC stuff does it have?

No. H&P were saying that they needed 30,000 sales to make it worth their
while continuing with development, but since not even everyone on this list
has ordered it yet, I doubt they'll achieve that level of sales.

All the best,
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Q:  How much does a cockney pay for his shampoo?
A:  Pantene

Hi all,

I need to take the poll results first thing tomorrow morning (26.10.99) in
order to make the afb page this issue. We've only have a measly 92
responses to the poll yet, so please vote if you haven't already, and those
having trouble with whatever browser they are using, try a different
browser - we give you a wide selection on the CD every issue...

All the best,
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Blind dogs for the Guides appeal launched

Hello Everyone.

As things weren`t bad enough already, I read with disgust that Pirates
have uploaded OS3.5 to BBS and ftp sites. 

Anyone have any ideas how we can help nail these b*****ds?

Regards

Mikey C

Hi michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk,

> Anyone have any ideas how we can help nail these b*****ds?

For a start, don't download their hacked version. For seconds, tell H&P
about anyone you can *prove* has downloaded it.

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Excuse for the day: tectronic stress

Here are the results of the vote:

1. No, I don't think it's worth the money			3
2. Yes, if I can get the money			12
3. I'm not sure yet			17
4. Yes, of course I will			27
5. Yes, I pre-ordered mine			33

On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, A. Timiney wrote:
> Hi,
>  I've just had a rather good idea for a game - RobotWars

  Is that a bit like Droidworks?  The Star Wars themed game.  You build a
Droid, then have to play the game with it.


bye,
  Chris

--
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> Here are the results of the vote:
> 
> 1. No, I don't think it's worth the money	3
> 2. Yes, if I can get the money			12
> 3. I'm not sure yet					17
> 4. Yes, of course I will				27
> 5. Yes, I pre-ordered mine				33

Oog, that's a bit lame, isn't it?

92 votes? Out of a possible 800? 11.5%!

(/me does a bit of calculation)

Jesus, Ben, that's ONLY JUST statistically significant,
and that's using my own judgement and not goint through
another set of calcs :)

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Hi M.,

>> Here are the results of the vote:
>> 
>> 1. No, I don't think it's worth the money    3
>> 2. Yes, if I can get the money            12
>> 3. I'm not sure yet                    17
>> 4. Yes, of course I will                27
>> 5. Yes, I pre-ordered mine                33

> Oog, that's a bit lame, isn't it?

> 92 votes? Out of a possible 800? 11.5%!

> (/me does a bit of calculation)

> Jesus, Ben, that's ONLY JUST statistically significant,
> and that's using my own judgement and not goint through
> another set of calcs :)

I know, but what can you do?

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"I forgot what to buy", Tom said listlessly.

> > Jesus, Ben, that's ONLY JUST statistically significant,
> > and that's using my own judgement and not goint through
> > another set of calcs :)
> 
> I know, but what can you do?

Have another moan on the CD :)

It sorta worked last time, didn't it?

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Hi M.,

>>> Jesus, Ben, that's ONLY JUST statistically significant,
>>> and that's using my own judgement and not goint through
>>> another set of calcs :)
>> 
>> I know, but what can you do?

> Have another moan on the CD :)

> It sorta worked last time, didn't it?

Don't think so.

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Why is monosyllabic such a long word?

Couldn't you 
1) find out who the uploader of the files is and send them hate mail
2) tell the webmaster or BBS sysop that it is pirated and ask them
kindly to remove it from their site.



"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33901
> Hi michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk,
> 
> > Anyone have any ideas how we can help nail these b*****ds?
> 
> For a start, don't download their hacked version. For seconds, tell
H&P
> about anyone you can *prove* has downloaded it.
> 
> All the best,
> -- 
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> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Excuse for the day: tectronic stress
> 
> 

> 
> Couldn't you 
> 1) find out who the uploader of the files is and send them hate mail

AHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!

> 2) tell the webmaster or BBS sysop that it is pirated and ask them
> kindly to remove it from their site.

So naive, these youngsters :)

Pirates THRIVE on people doing that, it means they've hit a nerve.
Best to shut up and report them to the proper authorities (H&P,
FAST) without telling the pirates themselves. If you know who they
are, of course (as Ben said, *prove* they downloaded it)

You wouldn't tell the murderer of Jill Dando that you're going to
grass him up, would you?

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My A1200/PPC PowerTower has suddenly become VERY unstable, yet the
cause is unclear (though it did seem to start when my mum said "your
computer keeps crashing lately").
It was totally stable before installed DOpus Magellen 2, and then it
became a bit shaky. However, the problem has got worse. It seems to
crash just as DOpus' load gauge fills. I have FBlit, RexxMast, and Arq
in WBStartup, with VisualPrefs and NewIcons in the startup-sequence.
I re-installed everything (a fun task with a quite-full 4.3 Gb HD!) and
it is stable as long as I only use WB (not DOpus). Any theories?
Incidently, I plan to do some surgery on it tonight in order to find
any h/w faults. Time to give blood to the Blood God...

Paul

> My A1200/PPC PowerTower has suddenly become VERY unstable, yet the
> cause is unclear (though it did seem to start when my mum said "your
> computer keeps crashing lately").

BING!

Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup
(and order of loading) and I'll sort them out for you.

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University of Leicester

> > My A1200/PPC PowerTower has suddenly become VERY unstable, yet the
> > cause is unclear (though it did seem to start when my mum said "your
> > computer keeps crashing lately").
> 
> BING!
> 
> Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup
> (and order of loading) and I'll sort them out for you.

Before you do that, though, open your tower and make sure everything
is securely connected, ESPECIALLY your PPC card.

Leads, cables, wires, connectors, screws.. check them all..

Make sure your PSU and CPU fans *SPIN* when you turn on. Get some
'spray air' and clean them if they look dirty.

May just be overheating.. but send me your startups anyway, I
enjoy seeing how badly set up people's machines are :)

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University of Leicester

> > My A1200/PPC PowerTower has suddenly become VERY unstable, yet the
> > cause is unclear (though it did seem to start when my mum said "your
> > computer keeps crashing lately").
> 
> BING!
> 
> Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup
> (and order of loading) and I'll sort them out for you.
> 
> -- 
> Matt Sealey 

Hi Matt.  Can I do this too as I have the same problem as Amipa
(although Ive disabled the startup progress bar).  Also, with Dopus, if
I try to change the screenmode without disabling the background picture
the thing crashes, and if I try to load or change a theme it goes
haywire. I have to delete all environments and start again.  Very odd -
so Im sticking with one basic environment which only takes 5 mins to
re-do in case of failure.

Thanks,  

Bifford the Youngest.

>> Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup

> Hi Matt.  Can I do this too as I have the same problem as Amipa

Yeah Matt - and my toaster's broken; can you take a look at that too??
:)

RobM

> > 
> > Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup
> > (and order of loading) and I'll sort them out for you.
> > 
> 
> Hi Matt.  Can I do this too as I have the same problem as Amipa
> (although Ive disabled the startup progress bar).  Also, with 
> Dopus, if I try to change the screenmode without disabling the 
> background picture the thing crashes, and if I try to load or
> change a theme it goes haywire. I have to delete all environments
> and start again.  Very odd - so Im sticking with one basic
> environment which only takes 5 mins to re-do in case of failure.

Neat :)

Go ahead, send them to mws2@leicester.ac.uk 

For optimum configuration I will need:

S:startup-sequence
S:user-startup

.. and any scripts that they call, plus the output of:

List SYS:Wbstartup ALL TO T:WBStartupList

..and any version information you might think is appropriate.

This is a two-man job, I can't do this alone, so expect
little questions to flit back and forth between you and I,
especially with regards to versions, patches, and 'what the
hell is this?' enquiries :)

Go ahead, send send send (not a general invitation, although
I could start a service and charge for this :)

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University of Leicester

> > > Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup
> 
> > Hi Matt.  Can I do this too as I have the same problem as Amipa
> 
> Yeah Matt - and my toaster's broken; can you take a look at that too??
> :)

Buy a new toaster. Next!

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Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > My A1200/PPC PowerTower has suddenly become VERY unstable, yet the
> > cause is unclear (though it did seem to start when my mum said "your
> > computer keeps crashing lately").
> 
> BING!
> 
> Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup
> (and order of loading) and I'll sort them out for you.

Unfortunatley, I'm at work at the mo, working on a (yep, u guessed it)
Piece 'o Crap. Therefore, I'll try to send a list either tonight, or
tommorow.

Thanks for the help,

Paul

> Yeah Matt - and my toaster's broken; can you take a look at that too??

I thought toaster's were NTSC only?

Paul

Sealey, M. said, 

>> > > But he'd better come alone, I'm allergic to cats... disgusting
>> > > animals.
>> 
>> > Ooh, you're gonna regret that...

> Damn right he is!

>> I only regret encountering the things :(

> Damn thee, foul hater of all things pewly and cute!

I like cute things, it's only cats I hate...


Neil
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> > Damn thee, foul hater of all things pewly and cute!
>=20
> I like cute things, it's only cats I hate...

Ahh... although I suspect you have an hate of all things
Pok=E9mon and Pok=E9mon related?

Pika pika.. chuu!

--=20
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup
> > (and order of loading) and I'll sort them out for you.
> 
> Unfortunatley, I'm at work at the mo, working on a (yep, u guessed it)
> Piece 'o Crap. Therefore, I'll try to send a list either tonight, or
> tommorow.


He!  Dito.  Except Im at Uni.  I'll send them tonight before heading
off to KickStart.

Biffird the Youngest  (Int I just the most annoying Amiga user ever? 
(Dont answer that!))

>> Yeah Matt - and my toaster's broken; can you take a look at that too??
>> :)

> Buy a new toaster. Next!

Ladies and gentlemen - Dr. Sealey is in his surgery, and he's on a roll!!

RobM

Hi,..

I jsut mant to check this will work,.. i want to divide a big partition
into two (to test SFS),. i will copy all the data off, use HDToolbox to
delete and then create the new partitions. I just want to make sure
that this will not kill of my other partions ?, can someone assure me
(cos you did it).

On another point is SFS as good as it soulds..?

cheers,..

sa-@biffordyoungest.u-net.com wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33921
> 
> > > Send me the appropriate startup files, lists of apps in WBStartup
> > > (and order of loading) and I'll sort them out for you.
> > 
> > Unfortunatley, I'm at work at the mo, working on a (yep, u guessed
it)
> > Piece 'o Crap. Therefore, I'll try to send a list either tonight, or
> > tommorow.
> 
> 
> He!  Dito.  Except Im at Uni.  I'll send them tonight before heading
> off to KickStart.
> 
> Biffird the Youngest  (Int I just the most annoying Amiga user ever? 
> (Dont answer that!))

What spec Amiga do you have. We could have a common probelm on our
hands people...

A1200 PowerTower
BlizzardPPC 603e/175, 040/25, 64 Mb FastRAM
IDE Buffered i/face: 4.3Gb HD, 16 x CDROM, internal ZIP drive
56k modem (NetConnect2)

Paul

> > He!  Dito.  Except Im at Uni.  I'll send them tonight before heading
> > off to KickStart.
> > 
> > Biffird the Youngest  (Int I just the most annoying Amiga user
ever? 
> > (Dont answer that!))
> 
> What spec Amiga do you have. We could have a common probelm on our
> hands people...
> 
> A1200 PowerTower
> BlizzardPPC 603e/175, 040/25, 64 Mb FastRAM
> IDE Buffered i/face: 4.3Gb HD, 16 x CDROM, internal ZIP drive
> 56k modem (NetConnect2)
> 

A1200 PowerTower (everytrhing nicely secured and whiring!)
Appolo '040 25Mhz,  32Mb FastRAM,
IDE Bufferered Interface: 2.1Gb HD, 32x & 4x CDROM, Internal ZIP
56k MagicXpress modem + NC3+Fast Serial Port.
Dopus Magellan + the patch from GPSofts website and OPUS MPEGA.  
WB3.0 (soon 3.5) & OS3.1 chips.
Super-Hi-Res-Laced 128 colours (love the size - need the colours for a
half way decent background)
15" Monitor and Internal scandoubler/flicker fixer.

Just about does it!  But are you sure we are not twins lost at birth?

Bifford the Youngest.

> I jsut mant to check this will work,.. i want to divide a big 
> partition into two (to test SFS),. i will copy all the data off,
> use  HDToolbox to delete and then create the new partitions. I
> just want to make sure that this will not kill of my other
> partions ?, can someone assure me (cos you did it).

Yeah, as long as you don't touch any of the other partitions.

You'd be best to resize the partition to half size, and then
create a new partition in the blank space you leave behind,
it's more 'fluid' that way.

Makes no difference in operation, it just means you are less
likely to make a mistake by deleting too many or the wrong
partitions.

If you're unsure about whether what you do is right, simply
write down the block starts and ends on each partition, and
change away. If you hard drive explodes, simply re-enter the
values and you'll have your old partitions back, and a decent
disk salvager should be able to make good work of them.

Oh, and backup!

> On another point is SFS as good as it soulds..?

soulds? It's as good as they say, but don't put anything important
on there, 'cos the author has a knack of making the versions ever
so incompatible with each other every now and again :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > What spec Amiga do you have. We could have a common problem on
> > our hands people...
> > 
> > A1200 PowerTower
> > BlizzardPPC 603e/175, 040/25, 64 Mb FastRAM
> > IDE Buffered i/face: 4.3Gb HD, 16 x CDROM, internal ZIP drive
> > 56k modem (NetConnect2)
> 
> A1200 PowerTower (everytrhing nicely secured and whiring!)
> Appolo '040 25Mhz,  32Mb FastRAM,

You both have 040/25's?

> IDE Bufferered Interface: 2.1Gb HD, 32x & 4x CDROM, Internal ZIP

Almost freaky :)

> 56k MagicXpress modem + NC3+Fast Serial Port.

LOL!

> Dopus Magellan + the patch from GPSofts website and OPUS MPEGA.  
> WB3.0 (soon 3.5) & OS3.1 chips.

^^ that could be half the problem... mixing and matching 3.1 and
3.0 usually throws up some nasty bugs in the OS.

> Just about does it!  But are you sure we are not twins
> lost at birth?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> > What spec Amiga do you have. We could have a common probelm on our
> > hands people...
> > 
> > A1200 PowerTower
> > BlizzardPPC 603e/175, 040/25, 64 Mb FastRAM
> > IDE Buffered i/face: 4.3Gb HD, 16 x CDROM, internal ZIP drive
> > 56k modem (NetConnect2)
> > 
> 
> A1200 PowerTower (everytrhing nicely secured and whiring!)
> Appolo '040 25Mhz,  32Mb FastRAM,
> IDE Bufferered Interface: 2.1Gb HD, 32x & 4x CDROM, Internal ZIP
> 56k MagicXpress modem + NC3+Fast Serial Port.
> Dopus Magellan + the patch from GPSofts website and OPUS MPEGA.  
> WB3.0 (soon 3.5) & OS3.1 chips.
> Super-Hi-Res-Laced 128 colours (love the size - need the colours for a
> half way decent background)
> 15" Monitor and Internal scandoubler/flicker fixer.

What patch from GPSoft?

> Just about does it!  But are you sure we are not twins lost at birth?
> 
> Bifford the Youngest.

Well, I already have one twin brother, so I doubt it! Nice spec though,

Paul

amipa-@yahoo.com wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33928
> > > What spec Amiga do you have. We could have a common probelm on our
> > > hands people...
> > > 
> > > A1200 PowerTower
> > > BlizzardPPC 603e/175, 040/25, 64 Mb FastRAM
> > > IDE Buffered i/face: 4.3Gb HD, 16 x CDROM, internal ZIP drive
> > > 56k modem (NetConnect2)
> > > 
> > 
> > A1200 PowerTower (everytrhing nicely secured and whiring!)
> > Appolo '040 25Mhz,  32Mb FastRAM,
> > IDE Bufferered Interface: 2.1Gb HD, 32x & 4x CDROM, Internal ZIP
> > 56k MagicXpress modem + NC3+Fast Serial Port.
> > Dopus Magellan + the patch from GPSofts website and OPUS MPEGA.  
> > WB3.0 (soon 3.5) & OS3.1 chips.
> > Super-Hi-Res-Laced 128 colours (love the size - need the colours
for a
> > half way decent background)
> > 15" Monitor and Internal scandoubler/flicker fixer.
> 
> What patch from GPSoft?
> 
> > Just about does it!  But are you sure we are not twins lost at
birth?
> > 
> > Bifford the Youngest.
> 
> Well, I already have one twin brother, so I doubt it! Nice spec
though,
> 
> Paul
> 

PS. I have WB3.0 running on WB3.0 ROMs. No fast serial port (though I'm
thinking about getting one), or scan-doubler (BVision on the way
(apparently)), NetConnect2, and a nice'n'fast 8 colour DblPAL
screenmode.

Hi People,

If anyone's interested in getting together with me and a few people in
Nottingham and forming a user group, then contact me directly.

Thanks,

Frost.
-- 
"Bother," said Pooh, as he realised the "multimedia experience" was only sales
blurb.

Hi Frost,

> If anyone's interested in getting together with me and a few people in
> Nottingham and forming a user group, then contact me directly.

Make sure you check out the lost souls database and get in contact with
AmigaSoc...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format            F: (+44) 01225 732275
             PGP key available upon request
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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> _Replying to a message_:
> 
>   From:  Paul Hilder <paul@theterrace.u-net.com>
>    Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
>  Dated:  Sunday, 24-Oct-99, 00:14:39
>  About:  [afb] Re: Modem And BT Trouble 
> 
> 
> Hello Paul,
> 
> >>> I have had a pace 56k modem for quite a while now, and had no
> >>> problems with it connecting at approx 44000 k :) GREAT!!
> >>> 
> >>> I've just moved house 2 weeks ago, got the Amiga out and set it up
> >>> same config as before with Netconnect 2 etc now only getting 28800k
> >>> MAX!!! :(
> >> 
> >>> Checked my line (very bad hiss!) BT Say its ok even changed the gain
> >>> at the exchange, still the same 28.8k on a 56k modem to my ISP
>  
> >> Ask BT if you've got DACS on the new line. If so, demand that they
> >> remove it.
>  
> > What's DACS?
> 
> I can't resist this...  Over here, at least, Daks are a brand of
> underwear.  So you're going to ask them to take their Daks off?
> 
He He He.. I thought DAX was on Star Trek DS9???

Mind BT can stick on my telephone line any day!!!!! :))))))))))

Regards,

David

<snip>
> > Dopus Magellan + the patch from GPSofts website and OPUS MPEGA.  
> > WB3.0 (soon 3.5) & OS3.1 chips.
> > Super-Hi-Res-Laced 128 colours (love the size - need the colours
for a
> > half way decent background)
> > 15" Monitor and Internal scandoubler/flicker fixer.
> 
> What patch from GPSoft?

I visited their site ( http://www.gpsoft.com ) and found an update to
5.81 which I installed.

> > Just about does it!  But are you sure we are not twins lost at
birth?

> Well, I already have one twin brother, so I doubt it! Nice spec
though,

Thanks, your aint too bad either (I want a G4 - but cant afford one. 
Damn!)

Bifford the Youngest.

> > I can't resist this...  Over here, at least, Daks are a brand of
> > underwear.  So you're going to ask them to take their Daks off?
> > 
> He He He.. I thought DAX was on Star Trek DS9???


WAS being the correct word as DS9's now finished....unless your stuck
with terrestial TV like me :(  (missed the first episode of the new
season.  Damn!)

Of course, if the do a film it'll be a whole new ball game........but
maybe thats a topic for AFB-Movie.

Bifford the Youngest.

The boy Bifford on DS9:
> Of course, if the do a film it'll be a whole new ball game........but
> maybe thats a topic for AFB-Movie.

You know what... I think it will be!

RobM

"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=33931
> Hi Frost,
> 
> > If anyone's interested in getting together with me and a few people
in
> > Nottingham and forming a user group, then contact me directly.
> 
> Make sure you check out the lost souls database and get in contact
with
> AmigaSoc...

Yeah! They are a real help. (well ocassionaly anyhow!) check out
http://uk.amigasoc.org

BTW Ben, do you know where the usergroup Poll that I run went to?
I cannot find the results.

Regards

Mikey C

Sealey, M. said, 

>> Hi Neil,

>> > It's totally incompatible with all older Amiga programs. 
>> > That's why it was in beta testing for four months, to make
>> > sure that nothing slipped through the net, that no older
>> > programs sneaked through and were able to run.

>> ROTFLMAO...

> However funny it was, the sad thing is that there are people
> on this list who will be reading that now, BELEIVING it and
> propagating it to all the news sites and newsgroups and
> mailing lists as gospel.

I've already had one mail from someone who thought I was serious.

What do people think the beta testing involved, looking at screengrabs?


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Don't just do something, sit there!

Ben Vost said, 

> AZERTY is a nightmare to get used to if you are used to QWERTY. I apologise
> to anyone who was talking to me via IRC at the WoA this year. I was on a
> machine with an AZERTY keyboard and it took me an age to type my responses!

At least you didn't have to use the one with the German keyboard and the
US keymap :(

The German error messages didn't help much either.


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
If it was easy, the hardware people would take care of it.

> > > Hi Neil,
> 
> > > > It's totally incompatible with all older Amiga programs. 
> > > > That's why it was in beta testing for four months, to make
> > > > sure that nothing slipped through the net, that no older
> > > > programs sneaked through and were able to run.
> 
> > > ROTFLMAO...
> 
> > However funny it was, the sad thing is that there are people
> > on this list who will be reading that now, BELEIVING it and
> > propagating it to all the news sites and newsgroups and
> > mailing lists as gospel.
> 
> I've already had one mail from someone who thought I was serious.
> 
> What do people think the beta testing involved, looking at 
> screengrabs?

/me bangs head on table many a time

Does anyone have something sharp? I want to slit my wrists, I
can't live in a world with people that stupid :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On 25 Oct 1999, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> What do people think the beta testing involved, looking at screengrabs?

  N'ah, that'll be the reviews!!!  ;)


bye,
  Chris

--
http://www.legpits.co.uk/

On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 11:20:45AM +0100, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> > Is there any way i can add a mmu cheaply to my a1200 without buying an
> > accelerator.
> 
> sure....just buy the 020 MMU copro and make the electronics yourself.

The 68851? Sadly, I don't believe that the 680EC20 in the 1200 is capable
of running one.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

> On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 11:20:45AM +0100, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:
> > 
> > hi,
> > 
> > > Is there any way i can add a mmu cheaply to my a1200 
> > > without buying an accelerator.
> > 
> > sure....just buy the 020 MMU copro and make the electronics 
> > yourself.
> 
> The 68851? Sadly, I don't believe that the 680EC20 in the 
> 1200 is capable of running one.

Of course it is, but the thing is that the interface circuitry
and the way you access them (the 68851s) are twisted beyond
extremes. It can be done, though..

Why else do you think they started integrating them? :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 02:36:55PM +0100, Sealey, M. wrote:

> /me bangs head on table many a time
> 
> Does anyone have something sharp? I want to slit my wrists, I
> can't live in a world with people that stupid :)

You work in tech support. Shouldn't you have noticed the sheer stupidity
of the general population already? :)

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

> On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 02:36:55PM +0100, Sealey, M. wrote:
> 
> > /me bangs head on table many a time
> > 
> > Does anyone have something sharp? I want to slit my wrists, I
> > can't live in a world with people that stupid :)
> 
> You work in tech support. Shouldn't you have noticed the 
> sheer stupidity of the general population already? :)

Actually they're pretty O.K., you can put up with them because
you *KNOW* they don't know better

Most Amigans (and I use that as a derogatory term) think they
know everything. And they simply don't. But at least the general
public will be humble and say 'I don't know what I'm doing
so I called tech-support', rather than reeling round c.s.a.m
thinking they're preaching the word of Jesus! Hallelujah!

*sigh*

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Hi Neil,

>> AZERTY is a nightmare to get used to if you are used to QWERTY. I
>> apologise to anyone who was talking to me via IRC at the WoA this year. I
>> was on a machine with an AZERTY keyboard and it took me an age to type my
>> responses!

> At least you didn't have to use the one with the German keyboard and the
> US keymap :(

> The German error messages didn't help much either.

I think that may have been the one I used. I changed the keymap to a US one
thinking that at least it'd be easier to touch-type, but I don't really
touch-type so I kept getting confused looking at the keyboard while I was
typing... :(

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)                T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format            F: (+44) 01225 732275
             PGP key available upon request
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I know Karate, Kung Fu, and 47 other dangerous words.

On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 02:47:27PM +0100, Sealey, M. wrote:

> > The 68851? Sadly, I don't believe that the 680EC20 in the 
> > 1200 is capable of running one.
> 
> Of course it is, but the thing is that the interface circuitry
> and the way you access them (the 68851s) are twisted beyond
> extremes. It can be done, though..

Even with the EC model? I thought the brutally hacked-out features (24-bit
address space? Eww) included not supporting an MMU, although I could be
entirely wrong.

> Why else do you think they started integrating them? :)

To allow for smaller motherboards? :)

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk

Hi michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk,

> BTW Ben, do you know where the usergroup Poll that I run went to?
> I cannot find the results.

It was ended because it was over a month old, and the results got posted to
the list, same as normal, AFAIK.

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format            F: (+44) 01225 732275
             PGP key available upon request
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
     Member in good standing of the International 
           Brotherhood of Tagline Thieves

I have a horrible feeling that my spontaneous (and damn right annoying)
Amiga may be crashing because of a). whenever more than two IDE devices
are accessed (read or write) the machine hangs; and b). 1d4 motehrboard
revision - the curse of a second-hand replacement from my parents when
the original motherboards IDE pins bent...

Paul

Sealey, M. said, 

>> I like cute things, it's only cats I hate...

> Pika pika.. chuu!

That's about the noise I make when in close proximity to cats...


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
"Bother," said Pooh, more from force of habit than anything else.

I inherited one of the above mentioned when I bought one of my machines
secondhand and thought - damn, that'll be handy....

I now want to start doing some video editing (nothing too clever) and dug
this out - but now I reliase that I have no manual :(

Does anyone have a manual for one of these? It is the original RocGen (not
the RocGen Plus) with only the one wipe/fade knob (ooh, err missus!)

If so, or you have some details about it (I already have loads of software
to use with it, so nothing needed there) could you let me know...

Thanks
-- 

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                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
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Well.

I like it. Having said that, I'm upgrading from Workbench 3.0, so I would
say that, wouldn't I?

I backed up my Boot: partition to a (bootable) slaved HDD, because I was
sure there would be problems. And there were.

I installed 3.2 off the CD - fine.
I pre-installed 3.5 - fine.
Until it rebooted. After that the screen stayed black and everything was
dead. I figured that something already on my workbench was giving it gip
(though I can't think what, anyway it's irrelevant now).
So I booted from my slaved HDD, wiped my Boot: bit and installed 3.1 afresh.
Then pre-installed it.
Then installed 3.5.
No problem.
Then made sure that the ATA3.driver was present on the main HDD, copying it
over from the slave.

*And then* I installed AmiCDFS (or whatever it is that comes with the
PowerFlyer).
Big mistake.
All of a sudden, Icons appear saying "CD0: Uninitialized". Slightly more
informative than 3.0's "????" (or just not putting anything there), but
still perplexing. Still, for me it's those little things that show that it
*has* been improved.
So I [deep breath] wiped it down and started again.

Works fine now BUT can anyone tell me how to get it to recognise audio CDs?
No icons appear when one goes in - is it a case of putting a "def_CDDA etc"
icon in the env/sys drawer like with newicons? And is CacheCDFS (or whatever
comes with 3.5) inherent in the system or does it still have to be installed
serperately? My only bugbear with the package is the lack of decent
documentation.

Oh, and how can this be considered a cludge when so much of the code has
supposedly been re-written?

TTFN,

James.

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Drummond <richard.drummond@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Poll: is Richard Drummond evil?


> Hello Rich (sorry, James)

> You think you've got problems. I have been trying to crack my Richard
> Drummond habit for 25 years . . .
>
> ( Be strong. You're not Richard Drummpond. You're name is Throat-wobbler
> Mangrove . . . )

You're right, my name isn't Richard Drummpond. It's Richard Drummond. And
you're James Potter.

No! *I'm* James Potter and you're Richard Drummond.

Or maybe we're *both* Richard Drummond and -

BANG!!

AAARRGGHH!! My head's just exploded!

TTFN,

James (blaming his lack of a head on Richard's evilness)

> No! *I'm* James Potter and you're Richard Drummond.
> 
> Or maybe we're *both* Richard Drummond and -
> 
> BANG!!
> 
> AAARRGGHH!! My head's just exploded!

'Oh my God I've burst my brain..'
 
:o

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

I know this isn't ASB (if it existed!) but I thought I woulad talk about it
anyway...

Now - Amiga Shopper was always hailed as the "serious" Amiga mag (as opposed
to Amiga Power which was known as the "boy racer" mag), and one of my
speculative purchases has provided me with a complete collection of AS along
with all the cover disk.

Now, they did bugger loads of reviews (serious) ones, and I am wondering if
(providing AF being part of Future would allow) I should get a complete
review index done from them (as per the AF database here at Egroups).

Would anyone be interested?
Does anyone care?

The main reason I ask is that a lot of our world is now based around getting
second-hand goods on the cheap and utilising them and AS has a lot of
details from a few years ago (apart from adverts for A3Ks @ 2699 and 32mb 
RAM for 1000+).

Let me know (and also Ben due to the FuturePub link)

l8r
-- 

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                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
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_Replying to a message_:

  From:  Patrice Champarou <pmchamp@club-internet.fr>
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Monday, 25-Oct-99, 18:14:13
 About:  [afb] Re: My new Email 


Hello Patrice,

>> I can only just about type with qwerty! :-)
 
>  Believe it or not, I also have problems with Azerty ( I typed for 10
> years or so on my A1000 American keyboard ). And one of the best
> features of Qwerty is that you can type numbers without using shift.
> You'll never know how lucky you are, if you use programs like
> Wordworth which don't recognize the numeric keypad :-(

Which version?  On at least one of the versions of Wordworth that I
have, you can elect to use the numerical pad as either a number
keyboard, or the cursor control.

Bye,
Tim.  (B.A. T.L.M.N.)

-- 

http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/tim_seifert
mailto:tim_seifert@picknowl.com.au

(Modbury, near Adelaide, South Australia)
   
Video productions, electronics engineering, service and technical
support, and more.  For further information visit the web site.

***  DO  NOT  SEND  JUNK  MAIL  *** 

_Replying to a message_:

  From:  michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk
   Via:  Amiga Format mailing list <afb@egroups.com>
 Dated:  Monday, 25-Oct-99, 21:48:27
 About:  [afb] OS 3.5 PIRATED! 


Hello Michael,

> As things weren`t bad enough already, I read with disgust that Pirates
> have uploaded OS3.5 to BBS and ftp sites. 

I'm not surprise, I was on IRC the other day, and someone was talking
about how they'd downloaded it.

To show the general attitude of the morons on there, they were also
enjoying themselves doing various other nasty tricks to cause users
MODEMs to hang up.

After putting up with pricks like them for that last session, I don't
think I could be bothered using IRC again.

Bye,
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> I have a horrible feeling that my spontaneous (and damn right
annoying)
> Amiga may be crashing because of a). whenever more than two IDE
devices
> are accessed (read or write) the machine hangs; and b). 1d4
motehrboard
> revision - the curse of a second-hand replacement from my parents when
> the original motherboards IDE pins bent...


Hi Paul.  This might be a little bit of the problem (1d4 revision that
is).

I used to have a 1d4 uncorrected too and it crashed a hell of a lot.  I
recently purchased a corrected 1b (i think) from one of the lovely
people on this list :) and while it doesnt crash *quite* so much it
does still crash.

Most of the problems happen before the machine has warmed up - after
3/4 (sometimes more) crashes when first used it usually becomes more
stable.  Until I run certain programs that is :( so this could be part
of the problem, but not all of it.

Bifford the Youngest.

Hello,

Does anybody know the exact procedure of obtaining a refund of the retail
price of Win98?

I seem to remember seeing it on an anti-M$ page somewhere, it goes like
this........

You buy a PeeCee, it has Win98 pre-installed, you take the box home, you
don't turn the computer on, you reject the terms & conditions on the
envelope containing the CD and then I think you then send the unopened
envelope back to M$ for a refund and then you're free to install Linux/BeOs
etc...

It would make an interesting feature in the mag,......."So you want to buy a
PC, but don't want Windows" or something like that. :)

regards

chris
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Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram.....
Panasonic 36" Wiiiiddeessccrreeennn TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon
AC3 Decoder, JBL Speakers, Kef SubWoofer..... 

Hi Tudor,

> Let me know (and also Ben due to the FuturePub link)

An index of the reviews is no prob as far as I'm concerned.

All the best,
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> > I have a horrible feeling that my spontaneous (and damn right
> annoying)
> > Amiga may be crashing because of a). whenever more than two IDE
> devices
> > are accessed (read or write) the machine hangs; and b). 1d4
> motehrboard
> > revision - the curse of a second-hand replacement from my parents
when
> > the original motherboards IDE pins bent...
> 

> I used to have a 1d4 uncorrected too and it crashed a hell of a lot. 
I
> recently purchased a corrected 1b (i think) from one of the lovely
> people on this list :) and while it doesnt crash *quite* so much it
> does still crash.
> 
> Most of the problems happen before the machine has warmed up - after
> 3/4 (sometimes more) crashes when first used it usually becomes more
> stable.  Until I run certain programs that is :( so this could be part
> of the problem, but not all of it.
> 
> Bifford the Youngest.

Strange? Mine has a similar crash, er, routine? Maybe it's in the ROM!
I was also thinking that it may be due to the fact that IDE was only
ever meant to have two devices on it in the first place. The i/face in
the A1200 is just a basic IDE spec. I feel that the buffered i/face
connected to it may be getting the thing confused, thus throwing the
rest of the machine into tantrums! A PowerFlyer could be the answer...

Paul

> I'm not surprise, I was on IRC the other day, and someone was talking
> about how they'd downloaded it.
> 
> To show the general attitude of the morons on there, they were also
> enjoying themselves doing various other nasty tricks to cause users
> MODEMs to hang up.
> 
> After putting up with pricks like them for that last session, I don't
> think I could be bothered using IRC again.
> 

Thats a shame, a as with most things: the few put a bad name to the
many.
A couple of idiots using Bots to chuck people off a channel when a
certain phrase or someat is typed or, as you described, people playing
tricks with other people.  And especially this whole pirating thing. 
Only a very few do it but it means we are tarred and feathered with the
rest of them, and unfortunately the big companies that do develop for
the Amiga (or any platform) take more notice of the jerks who rip off
their product, than the hundreds of others who actively support that
product and suggest improvments to it.

key sar ra, sa ra.                      (probably spelt wrong, sorry)
what will be, will be.                  (as the song goes.)

Bifford the Youngest.

Hi sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com,

> key sar ra, sa ra.                      (probably spelt wrong, sorry)
> what will be, will be.                  (as the song goes.)

Que sera, sera.

All the best,
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Blamed For Advertising Hoarding

> > Most of the problems happen before the machine has warmed up - after
> > 3/4 (sometimes more) crashes when first used it usually becomes more
> > stable.  Until I run certain programs that is :( so this could be
part
> > of the problem, but not all of it.

> Strange? Mine has a similar crash, er, routine? Maybe it's in the ROM!
> I was also thinking that it may be due to the fact that IDE was only
> ever meant to have two devices on it in the first place. The i/face in
> the A1200 is just a basic IDE spec. I feel that the buffered i/face
> connected to it may be getting the thing confused, thus throwing the
> rest of the machine into tantrums! A PowerFlyer could be the answer...

Hi Paul,

Can you send my doctor a sample of your blood?.....I just want to make
doubly certain we are not long lost brothers.  Maybe dopalgangers?
(speelt wrong, no doubt).

Anyway, So we do a test.  disable all but the HD and one of the other
devices and see if that makes a differnce, if not we can rule that out.
 If you get a power flyer and it somehow solves all problems (cant see
that happening, can you?) drop me a line or something and I'll purchase
one the same day!

Happy bug hunting......and dont forget that blood sample!

Bifford the Youngest.

> > key sar ra, sa ra.                      (probably spelt wrong,
sorry)
> > what will be, will be.                  (as the song goes.)
> 
> Que sera, sera.
> 
Thanks Ben, my French is now almost non-existent.  Not that it was
exactly crash-hot when I did it for GCSE either....but......Que sera,
sera.

Bifford the Youngest.

Hi sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com,

>> Que sera, sera.
>> 
> Thanks Ben, my French is now almost non-existent.  Not that it was
> exactly crash-hot when I did it for GCSE either....but......Que sera,
> sera.

Actually that's Spanish. Or Italian.

All the best,
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Please use other door

> Hi Paul,
> 
> Can you send my doctor a sample of your blood?.....I just want to make
> doubly certain we are not long lost brothers.  Maybe dopalgangers?
> (speelt wrong, no doubt).
> 
> Anyway, So we do a test.  disable all but the HD and one of the other
> devices and see if that makes a differnce, if not we can rule that
out.
>  If you get a power flyer and it somehow solves all problems (cant see
> that happening, can you?) drop me a line or something and I'll
purchase
> one the same day!
> 
> Happy bug hunting......and dont forget that blood sample!
> 
> Bifford the Youngest.

Looks like I'm gonna have to rip out my brother's Zip drive then!
Rather that than my nice'n'shiny Fujitsu HD...
Tell me your blood type, then there'll be no need for a blood test,
right?

Paul

> >> Que sera, sera.
> >> 
> > Thanks Ben, my French is now almost non-existent.  Not that it was
> > exactly crash-hot when I did it for GCSE either....but......Que
sera,
> > sera.
> 
> Actually that's Spanish. Or Italian.

Really?  Are you sure?  Well I'll be damned!  Here I was under the
delusion it was a French saying.  It certainly sounds French.

Any other popular sayings that are generally mis-placed locality wise,
Ben?

Bifford the Youngest.

Frost wrote:
 
> If anyone's interested in getting together with me and a few people in
> Nottingham and forming a user group, then contact me directly.

just a quick mail before i head inot lectures, but yeah i`m interested
in a user-group in the nottingham area, i`m a student at Notts trent and
have just moved into sneinton, t`only problem i`ve got at the minute is
my ppc A4000 just went very, very south on my over the weekend:(

but anyway i`ve gotta go.. seeya

Ross

Hi sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com,

> Really?  Are you sure?  Well I'll be damned!  Here I was under the
> delusion it was a French saying.  It certainly sounds French.

It doesn't. Remember it's "Que" which would have to be "Qu'est" to be
pronounced the way it is in French. Remember Manuel in Fawtly Towers?

> Any other popular sayings that are generally mis-placed locality wise,
> Ben?

People always think that "stiff upper lip" is British, when it's American as
is "Gordon Bennett!" (not that anyone says that any longer).

All the best,
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said Tom disconcertingly.

<snip>

> Tell me your blood type, then there'll be no need for a blood test,
> right?


I dont actually have blood.....Ive got this funny green ooze that just
lubricates the parts of the body that moves a lot...

BBBrrrrrraaaaaaa---nnnnaaaa.

What just happened?  Im seem to be missing about 30 seconds from my
memory engram.  Very odd.  Have to look into th ----na-breeeewwwwwwddda
aa And you will all smash your computer keyboards into your monitor and
the-----aaaaannnnnnpppprrrrrr--- 

It just happened again didnt it?
Time to reboot.....

Bifford the Youngest.

> > Any other popular sayings that are generally mis-placed locality
wise,
> > Ben?
> 
> People always think that "stiff upper lip" is British, when it's
American as
> is "Gordon Bennett!" (not that anyone says that any longer).

Ahem...

Paul

> Hello,
> 
> Does anybody know the exact procedure of obtaining a refund 
> of the retail price of Win98?
> 
> I seem to remember seeing it on an anti-M$ page somewhere, it 
> goes like this........
> 
> You buy a PeeCee, it has Win98 pre-installed, you take the 
> box home, you don't turn the computer on, you reject the
> terms & conditions on the envelope containing the CD and
> then I think you then send the unopened envelope back to
> M$ for a refund and then you're free to install Linux/BeOs
> etc...

You're free to install Linux or BeOS anyway. As for the
refund, Microsoft tell you to talk to your PC manufacturer,
as they are the ones selling *you* the OS.

If you didn't want the OS, you can ASK not to have it, and
they MAY make a special case. They'd be stupid not to, but
Microsoft can in no way FORCE PC manufacturers to bundle
the OS, they just make it financially not-the-best-way-to
-do-business.

[Microsoft base their OEM prices on percentage PCs sold
with Windows bundled, the lower the percentage and therefore
the lower the amount of single packages means a higher price,
in essence it's a perverted bulk discount scheme, which many
people misconstrue as being 'evil']

Besides, if you look at your invoice for the PC you'll find
they price it via part count.  System Box, Mouse, Keyboard,
Windows 98SE OEM, and whether they price it or not, this is
to stop YOU complaining that it's part of the system box.

> It would make an interesting feature in the mag,......."So 
> you want to buy a PC, but don't want Windows" or something
> like that. :)

In an Amiga mag?

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

> I dont actually have blood.....Ive got this funny green ooze that just
> lubricates the parts of the body that moves a lot...
> 
> BBBrrrrrraaaaaaa---nnnnaaaa.
> 
> What just happened?  Im seem to be missing about 30 seconds from my
> memory engram.  Very odd.  Have to look into th ----na-breeeewwwwwwdd
da
> aa And you will all smash your computer keyboards into your monitor
and
> the-----aaaaannnnnnpppprrrrrr--- 
> 
> It just happened again didnt it?
> Time to reboot.....

That's the problem with 1d4... Damn you Commodore!!!

Paul

> > of the problem, but not all of it.
> 
> Strange? Mine has a similar crash, er, routine? Maybe it's in the ROM!

It's not.

> I was also thinking that it may be due to the fact that IDE was only
> ever meant to have two devices on it in the first place. The i/face in
> the A1200 is just a basic IDE spec. I feel that the buffered i/face
> connected to it may be getting the thing confused, thus throwing the
> rest of the machine into tantrums!

That's not how it works, the controller chip on the board will actually
field devices according to which drive you're talking to. It doesn't get
'confused' because all it is is a fancy switch with some prongs attached.

Check your MaxTransfer rate, make sure it's no higher than 0x1fe00 on
all your devices, and send me those startup-sequence files, 'cos you're
BOUND to have something that is screwing with memory somewhere..

> A PowerFlyer could be the answer...

With a Blizzard PPC card, that would actually be a REALLY bad idea,
ESPECIALLY if you haven't had your 1.D.4 fixed..

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

Tudor Davies wrote:

> Does anyone have a manual for one of these? It is the original RocGen (not
> the RocGen Plus) with only the one wipe/fade knob (ooh, err missus!)

I have a Roctec RocGen and (as I am a bit of a hoarder) I think I still
have the manual.
If I can find it.... it's yours.

I'm at work right now but I'll have a look when I get home and email you
privately.

Regards
Bernie
berno@enterprise.net

> > A PowerFlyer could be the answer...
> 
> With a Blizzard PPC card, that would actually be a REALLY bad idea,
> ESPECIALLY if you haven't had your 1.D.4 fixed..

Why exactly?

Paul

> Check your MaxTransfer rate, make sure it's no higher than 0x1fe00 on
> all your devices, and send me those startup-sequence files, 'cos
you're
> BOUND to have something that is screwing with memory somewhere..

Matt, whats classified as "higher" than 0x1fe00?  I think (off the top
of my head) my HD is at something like 0x1fffe.  could be wrong though.
 Can we have a list.?

Actually - Ben, can you do an article on this as Ive no idea what it
all does.  I just keep reading things like "set it to ########### to
get the best performance." etc.  I know a fair bit about buffers but
absolutely nouwt about  maxtransfer rates, and I shouldnt think Im
alone.

Bifford the Youngest.

> Actually - Ben, can you do an article on this as Ive no idea what it
> all does.  I just keep reading things like "set it to ########### to
> get the best performance." etc.  I know a fair bit about buffers but
> absolutely nouwt about  maxtransfer rates, and I shouldnt think Im
> alone.

And I second this notion. Come on, chop chop!

Paul

> > > A PowerFlyer could be the answer...
> > 
> > With a Blizzard PPC card, that would actually be a REALLY bad idea,
> > ESPECIALLY if you haven't had your 1.D.4 fixed..
> 
> Why exactly?

Everybody I've seen on mailing lists with a Blizzard and a Power Flyer
have been moaning about incompatibilities, inability to use the Flyer
in higher PIO modes, data corruption, random crashes, EVERYTHING.

Plus, the PF and BPPC seem to augment the timing problems on the clock
port when brought together.. seeing as you don't have a serial port
or a sound card that doesn't bother you, but you'll still get the crashes,
the lack of feature compatibility.. need I say more?

(I thin they may have fixed it in v4 of the Power Flyer software though..)

-- 
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester

OK. Here are some hints for OS3.5 I've found out. They might be useful
to others as well, and if your not interested just skip this mail ;)

1. After I've installed the OS3.5 CDFS driver, the computer kept telling
me how to obtain the full version after booting up. The CD Prefs program
did not work, too. It turned out I had installed Idefix97 some time ago,
decided not to use it and forgot about the CacheCDFS.device in L:. The
3.5 installer does not overwrite it, so you have to copy the device
manually from the CD.

2. If you want to convert your Magic-/Newicons to the new Icon format, there
are very useful programs in AmigaOS3.5:Contribution/ Converter-Scripts/ Icon-Tools/. There is even a script to convert all icons on a drive.
But make sure you have enabled Newicons support in Workbench Prefs,
otherwise the script will only convert small white dots to the new Icon
format and you have to reinstall icons by hand.

3. There is an icon datatype on the CD. When you find ToolManager can't
display your icons as images in dock bars anymore just install it and
Toolmanager will load the Icon as an image. This might be useful for
other similar programs as well. 

4. You do not need ToolAlias patches anymore, if Workbench can't find a
default tool, it let's you choose another tool instead of just offering
you retry and cancel. It's small features like this that surprised me
because I did not expect them.

Regards,
-- 
Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de

> > Check your MaxTransfer rate, make sure it's no higher than 
> > 0x1fe00 on all your devices, and send me those startup-sequence
> > files, 'cos you're BOUND to have something that is screwing
> > with memory somewhere..
> 
> Matt, whats classified as "higher" than 0x1fe00?

Anything above and including 0x1fe01 :)

You're seriously telling me you can't count in hexadecimal? :)

> I think (off the top of my head) my HD is at something like 0x1fffe.
> could be wrong though. Can we have a list.?

Go get a scientific calculator :)

> Actually - Ben, can you do an article on this as Ive no idea what it
> all does.  I just keep reading things like "set it to ########### to
> get the best performance." etc.  I know a fair bit about buffers but
> absolutely nouwt about  maxtransfer rates, and I shouldnt think Im
> alone.

MaxTransfer is the maximum size of a 'block' of data that the interface
will transfer across the bus. 0x1fe00 is about 128k minus a few bytes.

So basically, your data will shuffle across the bus in 128,000 byte
chunks (yes, I know I'm using 1000 instead of 1024 for the calcs)

Set your MaxTransfer to 0xfe00 and it'll transfer in 64,000 byte chunks.
It'll do two chunks in the same time that it takes 0x1fe00 rate to do
one, so no data speed is lost (much)

Basically, if MaxTransfer is set too high and the OS requests a chunk
of data that exceeds the maximum SUPPORTED MaxTransfer size, then there
is a good chance that the data AFTER that supported value will be
corrupted. Some drivers compensate using buffering and clever limiting
techniques (i.e. they use lots of buffers, and only use low MaxTransfers
whether you specify higher ones or not). Most don't however.

The Amiga's IDE interface can do a pretty high rate, dependant on CPU
load. The drives connected to it are only guaranteed to do 64 or 128k
bursts of data if they're all pretty low spec drives.

Damn, it's too complicated. I've made a right mess of that translating
it into laymen's terms :)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester